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Apt Complex Requires Tenant To Remove US Flag - "Threat to Muslim Community"
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:08 am
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A Webster man says his apartment complex manager told him his American flag was a “threat to the Muslim community,” and that he has to take it down. But he’s not giving up without a fight.
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We tried to ask a manager if that's exactly what was said, but she just handed us a statement, refused to answer any questions, and called an officer to escort us off the property, before we could press any further
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We have not heard of any residents complaining about any flags at the complex, or any of the patriotic items we saw. In fact, we spoke to several neighbors who say they want Tran's flag to stay.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am to imjustafatkid
Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:11 am to imjustafatkid
there are some posters on this board that would want him to take it down as well
shitty people are shitty
ETA: one post too late
shitty people are shitty
ETA: one post too late
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:12 am to Choctaw
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there are some posters on this board that would want him to take it down as well
shitty people are shitty
So you oppose the rights of businessmen to do as they please with their own business property?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:12 am to SpidermanTUba
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Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
is there anything in the contract about not putting a flag on property THAT HE RENTS?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:13 am to SpidermanTUba
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Are you against the rights of private business owners to do as they please with their own property?
This statement doesn't make sense in this context. The apartment complex is in the US. It is reasonable to believe people in the US would fly US flags. If you don't want this to happen it should be in the lease contract. He is saying and the article supports that he has not been given any reason why he should remove the flag. I would think that would include the lease contract.
Doesn't he pay to use the property? You don't think he should be allowed to decorate the apartment he pays for in whatever way he deems fit?
He says they haven't provided him with any reason requiring him to remove his flag. It would need to be noted in his lease that he can't hang his flag in such a manner and if it isn't then he is within his rights.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:16 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:13 am to SpidermanTUba
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So you oppose the rights of businessmen to do as they please with their own business property?
if its in the contract that he can't put up a flag than fine. if not...than he should be able to if its not harming anyone else
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:15 am to imjustafatkid
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Doesn't he pay to use the property? You don't think he should be allowed to use the cake for whatever type of wedding he deems fit?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:16 am to imjustafatkid
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American flag was a “threat to the Muslim community,”
There is a dispute involving his flying of the flag in an apt complex, but I don't believe the above was given to him as a reason. I think he's trying to get media attention.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:16 am to Choctaw
I would tell the owner and the Muslims to go piss up a rope.
Freedom of speech brah!
Freedom of speech brah!
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:17 am to Green Chili Tiger
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Doesn't he pay to use the property? You don't think he should be allowed to use the cake for whatever type of wedding he deems fit?
Not the same. The apartment complex entered into a contract with the man. If they had told him they didn't allow patriotic symbols beforehand I'm sure he wouldn't have moved in.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:19 am to cwill
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There is a dispute involving his flying of the flag in an apt complex, but I don't believe the above was given to him as a reason. I think he's trying to get media attention.
I thought the same thing, but I feel like they would have said that to the reporter when they were questioned before they had them forcibly removed from the property. I would hope people have enough common public relations sense to at least say "that's not the reason we gave him."
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:21 am to Choctaw
Its amazing how quick TUBA disappears when you reveal his total ignorance to reality.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:21 am to imjustafatkid
We understand that the recent events surrounding the display of the United States Flag on the balcony railing has caused a great deal of consternation. We regret that the policies, consistent with the hotel and apartment industry, have created an incorrect perception that we are not supportive of patriotism.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
Residents are allowed to display flags inside their balconies. However, tarps, tents, flags, towels or clothing are not permitted on or over the railing of balconies and patios in order to maintain an aesthetically consistent image.
We are committed to providing a safe, comfortable and pleasant living environment to our residents through service, attention to detail and exacting expectations. Our goal is to deliver a positive living experience for all of our residents and regret the misunderstanding.
We apologize for anything that may have been communicated regarding the policy that was offensive to Mr. Tran at The Lodge on El Dorado in Webster, Texas. We admire our resident’s patriotism and proudly display our Country’s flag at the entrance to our community.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:23 am to SpidermanTUba
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So you oppose the rights of businessmen to do as they please with their own business property?
If you think the government doesn't dictate what you can or cannot do with your business property, well, you should really get out more.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:23 am to Green Chili Tiger
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SpidermanTUba
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Green Chili Tiger
Some awfully bad arguments posed in here by you two.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:24 am to imjustafatkid
I'm confused to the reasoning here why our country's flag would be seen as a threat to a Muslim living here.
Are they terrorists and would have something to fear from the United States government?
Has not the United States government operating under that flag given them refuge?
BIGGER QUESTION....
Should WE feel threatened with a person who feels threatened by our very flag? Should that concern me most of all?
Are they terrorists and would have something to fear from the United States government?
Has not the United States government operating under that flag given them refuge?
BIGGER QUESTION....
Should WE feel threatened with a person who feels threatened by our very flag? Should that concern me most of all?
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:24 am to Mike da Tigah
The complex owner is really GMorgan
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:24 am to PuntBamaPunt
TUBA logic:
Man flies American Flag on his apartment balcony "Why do you oppose a property owner exercising his rights to do what he wants with his property"
Man refuses to bake cake for gay wedding or photograph it "Why do you think a person can do whatever he wants to with his business? There are rules and regulations to follow you know. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom to discriminate"
Man flies American Flag on his apartment balcony "Why do you oppose a property owner exercising his rights to do what he wants with his property"
Man refuses to bake cake for gay wedding or photograph it "Why do you think a person can do whatever he wants to with his business? There are rules and regulations to follow you know. Freedom of Speech does not mean freedom to discriminate"
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