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re: I'm Proud to be an American, Where At Least I Know I'm Free?

Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:50 pm to
Meh. "Free" is hard to define. Funny that the government is getting so overbearing that more people are beginning to think this way. Maybe people will eventually realize they don't need an overbearing nanny state.

Probably not going to happen any time soon, though.
Posted by Tigressa del Norte
Seattle
Member since Jan 2009
3074 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:54 pm to
No, I'm afraid we're stuck with the nanny state.

Bush's Iraq war is yet to be decided.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 4/12/14 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Maybe people will eventually realize they don't need an overbearing nanny state.


I grew up in the 50s. Imagine a scale measuring individual liberty vis-a-vis govt control over the individual with '1' being in favor of the individual and 10 being all control in the hands of govt.

If you want to describe 2014 as a '5' then 1955 was a '2'. We've moved that far along the line and it isn't going to stop moving in that direction.

Just a fraction of the differences:

You could buy cigarettes out of a vending machine.
No seat belt laws.
No motorcycle helmet laws.
No welfare or medicaid.
No forced busing to schools 20 miles away.
The Dem party was extreme right wing compared to today.
The Supreme Court was dominated by strict constructionists.
The EPA and Dept. of Education did not exist.
The Govt did not confiscate privately owned cattle.

I could go on.

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