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The New Bats are Killing College Baseball (Reasons Why)
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:04 pm
The new bats are hurting the sport of college baseball.
1. They make it impossible to disguise any weaknesses.
Let's face it, not all the kids you see playing in a NCAA uniform are going to the pros. Some of them are good enough for college, not good enough for the next level. The new bats kill those guys.
2. Recruiting
When was the last time you heard about a team in the SEC dominating with Home Runs? USCe maybe. But that is it. Recruiting is being held for pitchers, pitchers, pitchers.
Look how many hitters go pro out of high school just because they don't want to waste a couple years using a bat they will never use again. They mine as well jump straight into a wooden bat and start practicing now.
3. Draft position
This one goes along side the last one really. It is becoming more rare to see a highly touted recruit, only the hitters, coming out of HS improve his draft position. Sure, there are players that do so, Mason Katz for example, but that number is dropping. Why?
Because pitchers are going to college to increase their draft stock and take advantage of these bats. They know if they go to college they can put up sick stats and do nothing but go North on draft day.
4. Excitement Level
A lot of fans, not the diehards like myself, will go catch a baseball game for the scoring and the drama. They don't want to go watch a kid like Jared Poche pitch a nearly perfect game as a true freshman against an SEC rival. They just don't. I do. I love watching these pitchers dominate. But I am afraid the bats are helping their numbers.
Maybe not all pitchers, but a good portion of them are definitely getting help from these bats.
5. Overall Quality of Baseball
For the baseball purest, the new bats are not as big a deal because they will argue that a player needs to learn how to hit a ball in the right spot anyways. However, we didn't pay to watch minor league players develop into MLB players. We are here to watch our LSU Tigers bring home another CWS title. And we love it when they do it with power. Remember 2009? Those weren't the same bats as 1997 yet they still worked. Why did we have to change those?
6. The New Baseball
Again, this is going to hurt pitching. Pitchers are going to lose movement on their pitches forcing more balls to go smoother down the plate and allowing hitters to see pitches better. It will increase hitting but it takes away one of the greatest pitches in the history of sports, the curveball. It will not only hurt a curveball from its movement but the slider to. They will both still do what they do but on a much smaller scale of movement.
BRING BACK THE 2009 BATS!
1. They make it impossible to disguise any weaknesses.
Let's face it, not all the kids you see playing in a NCAA uniform are going to the pros. Some of them are good enough for college, not good enough for the next level. The new bats kill those guys.
2. Recruiting
When was the last time you heard about a team in the SEC dominating with Home Runs? USCe maybe. But that is it. Recruiting is being held for pitchers, pitchers, pitchers.
Look how many hitters go pro out of high school just because they don't want to waste a couple years using a bat they will never use again. They mine as well jump straight into a wooden bat and start practicing now.
3. Draft position
This one goes along side the last one really. It is becoming more rare to see a highly touted recruit, only the hitters, coming out of HS improve his draft position. Sure, there are players that do so, Mason Katz for example, but that number is dropping. Why?
Because pitchers are going to college to increase their draft stock and take advantage of these bats. They know if they go to college they can put up sick stats and do nothing but go North on draft day.
4. Excitement Level
A lot of fans, not the diehards like myself, will go catch a baseball game for the scoring and the drama. They don't want to go watch a kid like Jared Poche pitch a nearly perfect game as a true freshman against an SEC rival. They just don't. I do. I love watching these pitchers dominate. But I am afraid the bats are helping their numbers.
Maybe not all pitchers, but a good portion of them are definitely getting help from these bats.
5. Overall Quality of Baseball
For the baseball purest, the new bats are not as big a deal because they will argue that a player needs to learn how to hit a ball in the right spot anyways. However, we didn't pay to watch minor league players develop into MLB players. We are here to watch our LSU Tigers bring home another CWS title. And we love it when they do it with power. Remember 2009? Those weren't the same bats as 1997 yet they still worked. Why did we have to change those?
6. The New Baseball
Again, this is going to hurt pitching. Pitchers are going to lose movement on their pitches forcing more balls to go smoother down the plate and allowing hitters to see pitches better. It will increase hitting but it takes away one of the greatest pitches in the history of sports, the curveball. It will not only hurt a curveball from its movement but the slider to. They will both still do what they do but on a much smaller scale of movement.
BRING BACK THE 2009 BATS!
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:11 pm to tadelatt
Thank us and 1998 USC and Arizona State.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:12 pm to tadelatt
Games are so boring I now bring the 2014 LSU Baseball Media Guide just to read something during the many lulls in the game.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:14 pm to PiscesTiger
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Thank us and 1998 USC and Arizona State.
That is what brought on the bats used in the late 00's. The ones we used in 2009 were perfectly fine.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:17 pm to tadelatt
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The ones we used in 2009 were perfectly fine.
WHat was the difference that was added then? I'm seriously asking. How did we change the bats from 2000 to 2009?
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:29 pm to PiscesTiger
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WHat was the difference that was added then? I'm seriously asking. How did we change the bats from 2000 to 2009?
the change was in 1999. the changed the diameter of the bats from 2.75 in to 2.5 in and from -5 to -3. In the latter half of the 2000s, bat companies started making bats out of composite materials that could be manipulated (rolled) into creating higher exit speeds, thus resulting in the change to the BBCOR bats we have now, which are awful.
This post was edited on 3/25/14 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:29 pm to PiscesTiger
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WHat was the difference that was added then? I'm seriously asking. How did we change the bats from 2000 to 2009?
Around 2000 or 2001, The weight drop on the bats went from -5oz to -3oz. This basically means the inertia on the bats changed to a smaller spot thus shrinking the amount of the barrel they could hit a ball with a still destroy it.
In 2009, LSU exposed the problems with the bats in that they realized that if the bats were used more often, they would slowly being to wear down and the bats became more powerful over time. Thus the outburst of homers we had during the CWS.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:36 pm to tadelatt
High school using same bats
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:42 pm to choupiquesushi
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High school using same bats
Pitchers throwing cabbage in HS
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:46 pm to Smalls
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A lot of fans, not the diehards like myself, will go catch a baseball game for the scoring and the drama
cajuns average 7+ runs a game lulz
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:49 pm to choupiquesushi
Yes they are.
And HR's are still only hit on favorably windy conditions on smaller fields with far less quality of pitching.
My godchild is on a team in 5A that is top 4 in power rankings, and they have 3 total HR's this season. They played 2 LSU signees this past weekend in back to back games with no wind, and scores of 8-5 and 6-1 produced not one single ball even against the wall.
And HR's are still only hit on favorably windy conditions on smaller fields with far less quality of pitching.
My godchild is on a team in 5A that is top 4 in power rankings, and they have 3 total HR's this season. They played 2 LSU signees this past weekend in back to back games with no wind, and scores of 8-5 and 6-1 produced not one single ball even against the wall.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:49 pm to tadelatt
Just use Baum bats or real wood . Problem solved
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:53 pm to RaginCajunsULL
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cajuns average 7+ runs a game lulz
That's awesome.
Texas Southern, I hear, is going to make the CWS one day. Soon.
GFY Rajun Cajuns.
Your record against teams with an RPI over 100 is 17-1. Great job playing real teams. Playing us once doesn't give you enough street cred.
For frick's sake, you all played one team in the top 50 in RPI and that was us and all you scored was 4 runs.
Posted on 3/25/14 at 7:56 pm to tadelatt
Who the hell ranked ULL so freakin high in the polls is beyond me because they play no one all season.
South Alabama is the one team you can hang your hat on and I guarantee you they lose 2 of 3 in that series. Prob will have 7 losses going into that series and will fall to #20 in poll.
South Alabama is the one team you can hang your hat on and I guarantee you they lose 2 of 3 in that series. Prob will have 7 losses going into that series and will fall to #20 in poll.
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