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re: Republicans take bribes to make law to help a rich guy steal from his kids
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:06 pm to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:06 pm to Iona Fan Man
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same as St George and other redistricting lines....reps are really scum bucket car salesmen (with hearts of gold...as long as a camera is in front of them)
oh I was thinking similar to the national convention where ron paul was fricked over so hard. but yeah there maybe a pattern here.
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Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:09 pm to TigerPride10
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I'll use this the next time an Obama bashing thread pops up on here.
Please do, if it warrants it. Government is corrupt on both sides of the aisle. frick all of them
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:10 pm to Eighteen
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What a joke.
How exactly is this a "republican" problem and not a "government" problem?
because if it was a democrat everyone would be up in here crowing about it. so I figure what's fair is fair.
But yes overall this bullshite goes on with all politicians.
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:14 pm to oklahogjr
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because if it was a democrat everyone would be up in here crowing about it. so I figure what's fair is fair.
Yea, and this is the exact reason why all these dipshits still have power.
Because instead of getting to the root of the problem and the corruption, people make every issue a partisan one so then that becomes the point of discussion of the topic
Our politicians have it figured out and it's pretty sickening. Nothing will ever change
Posted on 1/12/14 at 11:17 pm to Iona Fan Man
Kleefisch is catching hell on his FB page, FWIW.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 12:02 am to TigerPride10
Why do you keep saying he is giving money to his kids? The money goes straight to his ex wife. Does she have to itemize her expenditures to his kids showing each dollar is spent directly for their benefit?
Life is never so simple. The guy may be scum but trying to act like this all a about the kids is a joke.
I know it's easy to jump on the media headline and ignore reality of the situation but I like to consider all sides before the beheading.
Life is never so simple. The guy may be scum but trying to act like this all a about the kids is a joke.
I know it's easy to jump on the media headline and ignore reality of the situation but I like to consider all sides before the beheading.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 5:40 am to Iona Fan Man
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court ordered payment....it is legally theirs
Ok I can go with that, but your court ordered, legal argument doesnt work when:
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he's getting them to draft a law to take that order away, and then reopen his case so that he gets to pay them less.
So then if the law changes, wouldn't the money not legally be theirs anymore? No matter how the law came to be.
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what word not synonymous with theft would you use?
Power. Some people have it and they usually use it when they have it.
And as has been said, it's usually people that are affected by a law that try to have that law changed. There weren't a lot of men trying to get women the right to vote nor were there a bunch of non drinkers trying to have prohibition repealed.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 5:50 am to JG77056
you fricking bigot cocksucker
Why don't you post something about some black guy robbing a gas station and call him a "typical n*****"?
same difference
Why don't you post something about some black guy robbing a gas station and call him a "typical n*****"?
same difference
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:13 am to gthog61
uhhhh....
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:24 am to Iona Fan Man
quote:renegotiation?
he's getting them to draft a law to take that order away, and then reopen his case so that he gets to pay them less. what word not synonymous with theft would you use?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 6:28 am to Iona Fan Man
Interesting example of the press not doing it's job when it has opportunity to do liberal bidding instead.
Out of curiosity I did a search for the total Eisenga divorce settlement. Alimony, property settlement, financial arrangements, etc.
Outside of cookie-cutter stories about child-support tying this creep to a GOP Rep., I found nothing.
Not one thing.
Press accounts do not even mention Eisenga's ex-wife by name. They do note she has at least two lawyers working for her, though. Lawyers are not cheap. Two lawyers are more expensive still. It would be a solid bet that two lawyers are not going to double team a complaint, if $15K/mo constitutes total resources this woman has coming in.
Out of curiosity I did a search for the total Eisenga divorce settlement. Alimony, property settlement, financial arrangements, etc.
Outside of cookie-cutter stories about child-support tying this creep to a GOP Rep., I found nothing.
Not one thing.
Press accounts do not even mention Eisenga's ex-wife by name. They do note she has at least two lawyers working for her, though. Lawyers are not cheap. Two lawyers are more expensive still. It would be a solid bet that two lawyers are not going to double team a complaint, if $15K/mo constitutes total resources this woman has coming in.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 7:26 am to Iona Fan Man
I would just like to point out that $180k per year is not "child support". It is spousal support masquerading as child support.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 7:31 am to Iona Fan Man
Sounds like a nasty divorce where two people are using kids as pawns trying to hurt each other. Husband using political connections, wife using media, as I'm sure the husband did not call attention to this publicly.
I wonder how much alimony was rewarded in divorce settlement?
I wonder what lifestyle on earth would a mother not be able to provide coverage for kids with $15,000 a month I child support. That's 180k/yr, she's in the 3-4% bracket on child support alone?
I wonder how in the hell she would qualify for public assistance?
Sounds like two people need to grow up.
And this is what politicians do. It's not a bribe. The guy isn't stealing. He's being a dick. But the tug at the heart strings emotion over fact method D's have used for so long has run it's course. Had you titled it more objectively, had a chance at a much better, honest, debate
I wonder how much alimony was rewarded in divorce settlement?
I wonder what lifestyle on earth would a mother not be able to provide coverage for kids with $15,000 a month I child support. That's 180k/yr, she's in the 3-4% bracket on child support alone?
I wonder how in the hell she would qualify for public assistance?
Sounds like two people need to grow up.
And this is what politicians do. It's not a bribe. The guy isn't stealing. He's being a dick. But the tug at the heart strings emotion over fact method D's have used for so long has run it's course. Had you titled it more objectively, had a chance at a much better, honest, debate
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:27 am to oklahogjr
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Typical republican the law isn't written to your advantage so lets just rewrite the laws asap and get it to our advantage.
Well how else is he supposed to get what he wants, executive order or just ignore it?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 8:34 am to Iona Fan Man
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steal it back from his kids
Wut?
I'm sure it has nothing to do with having to buy his kids everything while still having to write checks to his ex. It's about control of they money. Why does it matter how much he makes anyway?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:22 am to ItNeverRains
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I wonder what lifestyle on earth would a mother not be able to provide coverage for kids with $15,000 a month I child support. That's 180k/yr, she's in the 3-4% bracket on child support alone? I wonder how in the hell she would qualify for public assistance?
Well child support is not considered earnings by the mother and comes to her as tax free money. She does not have to claim it as income for tax purposes or for government services. The kids are eligible for free lunches if she does not have a job. The father pays the tax as he is the one earning it.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 11:41 am to Iona Fan Man
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Kashonly
Wouldn't this just make him a lobbyist?
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Judging from the 2012 election map I'd say bribery is doing well in some states other than the red ones...
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I'll save you the time, the 26 states that voted for your hero employ 31,160 of the total 47,786 working lobbyists. I think we could AT LEAST say money impacts the law on both sides of the aisle. Although, with your post history (and that of the other genius D's who flocked to this story) I'd guess that isn't a concession you're willing to make...
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:25 pm to Iona Fan Man
It is his money. He earned it. His kids have zero right to it. $15,000 a month for 3 kids is ridiculous. You know the ex is just using most of that for herself. What makes the OP think his kids are entitled to that much of their dad's money?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 2:37 pm to LeonPhelps
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It is his money. He earned it. His kids have zero right to it
He's legally and morally obligated to support his offspring.
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You know the ex is just using most of that for herself
Link?
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