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re: Georgia - LSU comparisons by unit

Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:06 pm to
Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.

None of the teams UGA has played has a defense or a special teams the caliber of ours. And only Clemson's offense is anywhere near LSU's.

You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3 to 38.6.

And yes, Clemson has played more name opponents, but not necessarily better defenses. UGA's defense is 85th in points given up, NC State's is 42nd.

TCU is 62nd in points given up, Auburn is 51st.

Didn't bother with the cupcakes for either.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49800 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 7:25 pm to
Transitive property works so well
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26177 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 8:41 pm to
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.


Yikes. Can't believe you spent time to type that out.
Posted by dgoren
Marietta, GA
Member since Nov 2011
17 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:01 pm to
Not a bad analysis, but I still think you can throw it out the window for a game like this. UGA was going through the motions vs. North TX. We just don't know what UGA team will show up. The defense will give up points to the Tigers, but the offense is very hard to stop for very long. I can see a back and forth game.
Posted by SuperGameCock
Member since Sep 2013
4 posts
Posted on 9/24/13 at 9:10 pm to
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA, and only 26 against NC State. USCe scored 30 against UGA, and only 27 against UNC. The Gamecocks only scored 35 against Vandy at home, just five more than at UGA. North Texas scored as many points against UGA as they did against Ohio U.

None of the teams UGA has played has a defense or a special teams the caliber of ours. And only Clemson's offense is anywhere near LSU's.

You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3 to 38.6.

And yes, Clemson has played more name opponents, but not necessarily better defenses. UGA's defense is 85th in points given up, NC State's is 42nd.

TCU is 62nd in points given up, Auburn is 51st.

Didn't bother with the cupcakes for either.


You're just stating things in a way attempting to make UGA worse than they really are, and LSU better than they are. Let me try the same thing

UGA has a top 6 SOS of schedule while LSU is in the mid 60s and they average over 90 more yards per game than LSU.

UGA has gained at least 536 yards in each game, while LSU has only gained more than 460 once in 4 games.

TCU scored 17 more points on LSU than they did against Texas Tech

UAB had over 50 more rush yards and a higher YPC against LSU than they did against Troy. UAB outrushed LSU that game as well.

Mett only has 2 TDs and 1 int combined against the two best defenses LSU has faced. He also has a 55% completion percentage in those games. Murray had 4 TDs and was 17-23 against USC, a better defense than either TCU or AU.

Mett has a 28% completion percentage in the Redzone. Murray has a 69% completion percentage in the Redzone.

Kent State scored 13 on LSU, 17 on Liberty, and were shut out by Penn State. Based on this logic LSU's defense is comparable to Liberty and worse than Penn State's D.

LSU hasn't played a true road game yet.

I could of made this list a lot longer, but point is it's easy to pull out random stats from random games and make them look worse or better than they are.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:19 am to
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You might be surprised to learn that LSU is scoring more PPG than Clemson, 40.3


It's actually 43.3 a game.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
29028 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 8:51 am to
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Clemson scored 38 against UGA


That was also the first game of the season, UGA is a better team now. Kinda like what happen to Oregon after LSU beat them a few years back.

LSU comes to play they should win.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29576 posts
Posted on 9/25/13 at 9:01 am to
Unfotunately, I agree that the transitive property is a poor way to compare the teams. If anything, we probably know a little more about the caliber of team UGA is as compared to LSU.

That said, in a general sense these two teams seem to be mirror images of each other. Sr. QB led offenses who have the ability to hurt you through the air and ground. Two stud RBs who are strong enough to run over you, and fast enough to break a big run at any time. LSU's WRs are better, but UGA has the edge at TE (mainly because they actually throw to the TE more than once a game) While on defense, both teams are talented but somewhat inexperienced. Nevertheless, both have the potential to be really good.

Overall, I'd trust UGA a bit more than LSU on offense. UGA has shown over the past few years that they can be efficient and put up points. LSU has looked really good in the first 4 games, but they haven't played a true road game against a top-notch SEC opponent. Also, history tells us that LSU's offense goes really conservative in big games.

Conversely, I'd trust LSU a little more on defense. Over the last few years, UGA at times has had some ups and downs on that side of the ball despite having some big-time players. While LSU's defense has strugged a bit this year (in comparison to their lofty standards) , great defense has been the hallmark of the Les Miles/John Chavis era. Again, while both teams have some talented players on D, I think LSU is probably more likely to "pull it together" in big game.
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