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re: Bulls Record in 93-94 55-27 Without God
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:53 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
Posted on 5/24/13 at 4:53 am to UsingUpAllTheLetters
Jordan had the GOAT supporting cast you put Barkley, Malone, Stockton or Robinson with Phil Pippen and Grant/Rodman instead of Jordan I bet they all would of won a bunch of rings while Jordan won none. And Jordan would still be better than them but it just goes to show that you don't win championships without help.
2011 Cavs without Lebron 61 wins to 19
2005 Lakers without Shaq 56 wins to 34
1997 Magic without Shaq 60 wins to 45
1992 Lakers without Magic 58 wins to 43
2001 Pistons without Hill 42 wins to 32
2012 Hornets without CP3 46 wins to 21
1989 Celtics without Bird 57 wins to 42
1979 Blazers without Walton 58 wins to 45
2002 Suns without Kidd 51 wins to 36
1970 Celtics without Russell 48 wins to 34
and on and on every time a prime or near prime HOFer has left a good/decent team, and didn't replace him with a HOFer the team has gotten way worse. The only exception I see is Jordan who had the best supporting cast in history
2011 Cavs without Lebron 61 wins to 19
2005 Lakers without Shaq 56 wins to 34
1997 Magic without Shaq 60 wins to 45
1992 Lakers without Magic 58 wins to 43
2001 Pistons without Hill 42 wins to 32
2012 Hornets without CP3 46 wins to 21
1989 Celtics without Bird 57 wins to 42
1979 Blazers without Walton 58 wins to 45
2002 Suns without Kidd 51 wins to 36
1970 Celtics without Russell 48 wins to 34
and on and on every time a prime or near prime HOFer has left a good/decent team, and didn't replace him with a HOFer the team has gotten way worse. The only exception I see is Jordan who had the best supporting cast in history
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 5:03 am
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:05 am to VerlanderBEAST
Averaging 20/7/7 really Terrible in first two finals! Really???? Grow up if u call this shitting the bed
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:25 am to Fearthehat0307
Look what sports are doing to us. It's an unhealthy argument that won't get anywhere. Leave Lebron alone till he retires. My god no one was talking about Jordan's legacy like this after his first championship. As of right now its clearly Jordan. When Lebron wins 6 then come back to discuss this until then let the kid finish his fricking career. Smh.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 5:28 am to VerlanderBEAST
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The only exception I see is Jordan who had the best supporting cast in history
My take is if Steve Kerr or BJ Armstrong or Horris Grant and players like that played for any other team you would have never heard about them. Jordan made them better. So saying Jordan had the best supporting cast in history has a lot to do with Jordan making them better.
Also luke fricking longley was his center. He averaged 7 points a game a 4 rebounds.
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 5:31 am
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:00 am to CP3LSU25
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My take is if Steve Kerr or BJ Armstrong or Horris Grant and players like that played for any other team you would have never heard about them.
Arstrong and Grant were good enough to win 55 games without Jordan
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:15 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Arstrong and Grant were good enough to win 55 games without Jordan
The Knicks were a number 2 seed and won 54 games this year. Times are different
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:47 am to Fearthehat0307
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penalizing a person for having better teammates is retarded.
Not if the only argument some people are willing to use is championships.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 6:49 am to StraightCashHomey21
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really bro, he basically played GM
If Bosh was willing to go to Cleveland, LeBron would still be there.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:04 am to CP3LSU25
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The Knicks were a number 2 seed and won 54 games this year. Times are different
What is your point?
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:12 am to LSU_2012
I swear to God, Lebron fans are almost as stupid as Bama fans.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:34 am to ohiovol
quote:I have never in my life used this argument.
Not if the only argument some people are willing to use is championships.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 7:36 am to CP3LSU25
quote:so by this logic bill Russell >>>>>>> Jordan and adam Morrison >>>>>> cp3
When Lebron wins 6 then come back to discuss this
This post was edited on 5/24/13 at 7:37 am
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:03 am to Fearthehat0307
We are just talking Lebron and Michael. Y'all are complicating this thread for no reason
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:05 am to CP3LSU25
quote:since when does number of titles signify greatness though? so if LeBron wins one more title than Jordan did that means he is the definitive GOAT?
We are just talking Lebron and Michael. Y'all are complicating this thread for no reason
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:05 am to RonFNSwanson
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So when someone proves lebron is better they are trolling now?
Nobody will ever be able to prove which one of these two guys were better.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:06 am to CP3LSU25
Once again
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Leave Lebron alone till he retires. My god no one was talking about Jordan's legacy like this after his first championship. As of right now its clearly Jordan.let the kid finish his fricking career. Smh
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:06 am to LanierSpots
quote:I think his statement about trolling was a troll
Nobody will ever be able to prove which one of these two guys were better
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:07 am to CP3LSU25
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Look what sports are doing to us. It's an unhealthy argument that won't get anywhere. Leave Lebron alone till he retires. My god no one was talking about Jordan's legacy like this after his first championship. As of right now its clearly Jordan. When Lebron wins 6 then come back to discuss this until then let the kid finish his fricking career. Smh.
I don't usually agree with you but this is spot on.
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:07 am to CP3LSU25
quote:you quoted yourself
Once again
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Leave Lebron alone till he retires. My god no one was talking about Jordan's legacy like this after his first championship. As of right now its clearly Jordan.let the kid finish his fricking career. Smh
I said the exact same thing in this thread or the kevin Durant thread in can't remember but the LeBron fapboys won't stop
Posted on 5/24/13 at 8:07 am to Fearthehat0307
It's called common sense and watching basketball. This isn't an argument till Lebron retires. It's stupid to argue about it now.
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