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Predict the 12/31/2013 prices. The winners for 2013 are listed on page 9.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:12 pm
Predict where the markets will be one year from now!
To be eligible for the Grand Prize at the end of the year, you must make a prediction in each of the categories below. You can choose to not make a prediction in some of the categories and still be eligible to win individual category medals. Gold, Silver and Bronze Medals will be awarded for each category plus an overall 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winners for Best Overall predictions.
Winners in individual categories will decided by having a prediction with the smallest deviation from the actual 2013 year end prices. The overall winner will be determined by having the smallest average deviation from actual prices for all the categories below.
All predictions must be posted by January 10, 2013 and no edits to predictions after that date are allowed.
For 2012, the overall winners were:
Overall Best Average Predictions:
Gold Medal: PlanoPrivateer: 9.16% average deviation
Silver Medal: C: 9.20% average deviation
Bronze Medal: lynxcat: 10.02% average deviation
All of the 2012 prediction results are here: LINK
12/31/12 (Beginning prices for 2013)
Dow Jones Industrials: 13,104.14
S&P 500: 1,426.19
Nasdaq: 3,019.51
EUR/USD: 1.3197
10 year bond: 1.761%
30 year bond: 2.953%
Gold: $1,675.80/oz.
Silver: $30.227/oz.
Oil: $91.82/barrel
Natural gas: $3.351
Wholesale gasoline: $2.7617/gallon
I'll start. My predictions are:
Dow Jones Industrials: 12,975.00
S&P 500: 1,400.00
Nasdaq: 2,950.00
EUR/USD: 1.2900
10 year bond: 1.961%
30 year bond: 3.253%
Gold: $1,650.80/oz.
Silver: $30.90/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $93.50/barrel
Natural gas: $3.65
Wholesale gasoline: $2.95/gallon
Let's do this!!!
To be eligible for the Grand Prize at the end of the year, you must make a prediction in each of the categories below. You can choose to not make a prediction in some of the categories and still be eligible to win individual category medals. Gold, Silver and Bronze Medals will be awarded for each category plus an overall 1st, 2nd and 3rd place winners for Best Overall predictions.
Winners in individual categories will decided by having a prediction with the smallest deviation from the actual 2013 year end prices. The overall winner will be determined by having the smallest average deviation from actual prices for all the categories below.
All predictions must be posted by January 10, 2013 and no edits to predictions after that date are allowed.
For 2012, the overall winners were:
Overall Best Average Predictions:
Gold Medal: PlanoPrivateer: 9.16% average deviation
Silver Medal: C: 9.20% average deviation
Bronze Medal: lynxcat: 10.02% average deviation
All of the 2012 prediction results are here: LINK
12/31/12 (Beginning prices for 2013)
Dow Jones Industrials: 13,104.14
S&P 500: 1,426.19
Nasdaq: 3,019.51
EUR/USD: 1.3197
10 year bond: 1.761%
30 year bond: 2.953%
Gold: $1,675.80/oz.
Silver: $30.227/oz.
Oil: $91.82/barrel
Natural gas: $3.351
Wholesale gasoline: $2.7617/gallon
I'll start. My predictions are:
Dow Jones Industrials: 12,975.00
S&P 500: 1,400.00
Nasdaq: 2,950.00
EUR/USD: 1.2900
10 year bond: 1.961%
30 year bond: 3.253%
Gold: $1,650.80/oz.
Silver: $30.90/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $93.50/barrel
Natural gas: $3.65
Wholesale gasoline: $2.95/gallon
Let's do this!!!
This post was edited on 12/31/13 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:36 pm to LSURussian
I think the markets are poised for a sustained recovery from the recession now that most of the political uncertainty has been put to rest. The Dow will surpass its 2007 high of 14,000 and approach 15,000. It's time to be bullish.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 2:47 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 14,150.50
S&P 500: 1,473.50
Nasdaq: 3,310.50
EUR/USD: 1.25
10 year bond: 2.100%
30 year bond: 3.300%
Gold: $1,600.00oz.
Silver: $28.875/oz.
Oil: $85.00/barrel
Natural gas: $4.250
Wholesale gasoline: $2.70/gallon
S&P 500: 1,473.50
Nasdaq: 3,310.50
EUR/USD: 1.25
10 year bond: 2.100%
30 year bond: 3.300%
Gold: $1,600.00oz.
Silver: $28.875/oz.
Oil: $85.00/barrel
Natural gas: $4.250
Wholesale gasoline: $2.70/gallon
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:15 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 13,700.14
S&P 500: 1,451.20
Nasdaq: 3,200.42
EUR/USD: 1.3050
10 year bond: 1.84%
30 year bond: 3.155%
Gold: $1,670.22/oz.
Silver: $32.068/oz.
Oil: $97.82/barrel
Natural gas: $4.073
Wholesale gasoline: $2.8423/gallon
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:28 pm to Layabout
quote:You're going to have to be more specific than that if you want to play with us.
The Dow will surpass its 2007 high of 14,000 and approach 15,000.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:38 pm to rmc
Okay, I've entered your predictions on my spreadsheet. If you change any of them before the 1/10 deadline, be sure to post about it so I will notice and make the changes on my spreadsheet.
The same goes for acgeaux129 if you make changes.
Both of you are more optimistic about the US's economy this year than I am and I hope you're right.
Good luck!
The same goes for acgeaux129 if you make changes.
Both of you are more optimistic about the US's economy this year than I am and I hope you're right.
Good luck!
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:51 pm to rmc
Dow Jones Industrials: 16,123.00
S&P 500: 1,559.20
Nasdaq: 3,800.42
EUR/USD: 1.3850
10 year bond: 1.98%
30 year bond: 4.155%
Gold: $1,510.50/oz.
Silver: $30.06/oz.
Oil: $109.50/barrel
Natural gas: $4.85
Wholesale gasoline: $3.65/gallon
S&P 500: 1,559.20
Nasdaq: 3,800.42
EUR/USD: 1.3850
10 year bond: 1.98%
30 year bond: 4.155%
Gold: $1,510.50/oz.
Silver: $30.06/oz.
Oil: $109.50/barrel
Natural gas: $4.85
Wholesale gasoline: $3.65/gallon
Posted on 1/1/13 at 3:53 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 13,874.63
S&P 500: 1492.29
Nasdaq: 3,134.98
EUR/USD: 1.2321
10 year bond: 1.63%
30 year bond: 2.85%
Gold: $1,415.69/oz.
Silver: $29.34/oz.
Oil: $94.45/barrel
Natural gas: $4.45
Wholesale gasoline: $2.999/gallon
S&P 500: 1492.29
Nasdaq: 3,134.98
EUR/USD: 1.2321
10 year bond: 1.63%
30 year bond: 2.85%
Gold: $1,415.69/oz.
Silver: $29.34/oz.
Oil: $94.45/barrel
Natural gas: $4.45
Wholesale gasoline: $2.999/gallon
Posted on 1/1/13 at 4:34 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 16,250.00
S&P 500: 1,625.00
Nasdaq: 3,750.00
EUR/USD: 1.9050
10 year bond: 1.975%
30 year bond: 3.5%
Gold: $4,000/oz.
Silver: $65/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $135/barrel
Natural gas: $4.50
Wholesale gasoline: $4.00/gallon
I'm extremely optimistic for the year to come. I think we see all time highs in the equity markets and we see inflation in the commodity market (I know I've been calling for this for a while, but I think it's coming). Interest rates are kept low and will start heading up in late 2013/early 2014.
S&P 500: 1,625.00
Nasdaq: 3,750.00
EUR/USD: 1.9050
10 year bond: 1.975%
30 year bond: 3.5%
Gold: $4,000/oz.
Silver: $65/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $135/barrel
Natural gas: $4.50
Wholesale gasoline: $4.00/gallon
I'm extremely optimistic for the year to come. I think we see all time highs in the equity markets and we see inflation in the commodity market (I know I've been calling for this for a while, but I think it's coming). Interest rates are kept low and will start heading up in late 2013/early 2014.
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 6:45 pm to LSURussian
quote:
Dow Jones Industrials: 12,975.00
In that case, I'll take 12,974.99.
Is someone else bidding 12974.98?
Posted on 1/1/13 at 7:56 pm to LSURussian
Russian, it really worries me that your predicting a flat market for next year. I hope you are wrong...
Dow Jones Industrials: 14200
S&P 500: 1,520
Nasdaq: 3,300
EUR/USD: 1.40
10 year bond: 1.95
30 year bond: 3.2
Gold: $1,650
Silver: $30
Oil: $85
Natural gas: $3.95
Wholesale gasoline: $2.60 gallon
Dow Jones Industrials: 14200
S&P 500: 1,520
Nasdaq: 3,300
EUR/USD: 1.40
10 year bond: 1.95
30 year bond: 3.2
Gold: $1,650
Silver: $30
Oil: $85
Natural gas: $3.95
Wholesale gasoline: $2.60 gallon
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:03 pm to LSURussian
Dow jones: 14,858.14
S&P: 1,725.19
NASDAQ: 3567.51
Eur/usd: 1.2977
10 year bond: 1.861%
30 year bond: 2.995%
gold: $1,625.80/oz
Silver: $30.025/oz
Oil: $95.82/ barrel
Natural gas: $3.851
Wholesale gas: $2.95617/ gallon
S&P: 1,725.19
NASDAQ: 3567.51
Eur/usd: 1.2977
10 year bond: 1.861%
30 year bond: 2.995%
gold: $1,625.80/oz
Silver: $30.025/oz
Oil: $95.82/ barrel
Natural gas: $3.851
Wholesale gas: $2.95617/ gallon
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:12 pm to foshizzle
quote:
quote: Dow Jones Industrials: 12,975.00
In that case, I'll take 12,974.99.
Is someone else bidding 12974.98?
The Price Is Right Rules do not apply.
Eta: what about the other categories?
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:22 pm to C
quote:
Russian, it really worries me that your predicting a flat market for next year. I hope you are wrong...
I hope I'm wrong, too.
I probably am just because I am currently very pessimistic about the political clusterfrick on the budget in congress. I reserve the right to edit my predictions up to 1/10/13 if we see a political breakthrough before then.
However I do believe any tax increases, either from the fiscal cliff "solution" or those required under Obamacare, are going to dampen economic growth in 2013.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:28 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 12,104.14
S&P 500: 1,326.19
Nasdaq: 2719.51
EUR/USD: 1.29
10 year bond: 1.561%
30 year bond: 2.531%
Gold: $1,775.80/oz.
Silver: $35.227/oz.
Oil: $87.82/barrel
Natural gas: $3.51
Wholesale gasoline: $2.617/gallon
If NO cliff deal passes, then I will have to edit my numbers lower.
Posted on 1/1/13 at 8:32 pm to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 13798.70
S&P 500: 1504.63
Nasdaq: 3176.52
EUR/USD: 1.3311
10 year bond: 2.083%
30 year bond: 3.335%
Gold: $1,455.93/oz.
Silver: $28.85/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $102.53/barrel (WTI)
Natural gas: $3.25 (NYMEX)
Wholesale gasoline: $3.03/gallon
Edited my wholesale gas price 1/1/13.
Good luck all!
S&P 500: 1504.63
Nasdaq: 3176.52
EUR/USD: 1.3311
10 year bond: 2.083%
30 year bond: 3.335%
Gold: $1,455.93/oz.
Silver: $28.85/oz.
Crude Oil (NYME): $102.53/barrel (WTI)
Natural gas: $3.25 (NYMEX)
Wholesale gasoline: $3.03/gallon
Edited my wholesale gas price 1/1/13.
Good luck all!
This post was edited on 1/1/13 at 8:35 pm
Posted on 1/2/13 at 7:57 am to LSURussian
I've added Lookin4Par, BigBoyTiger, LSU0358, C, threeputt, djmicrobe and saving$ predictions to my spreadsheet.
Again, if any of you change any of your numbers before the 1/10/13 deadline, please make a separate post about the changes or you risk me not seeing your changes.
I will copy and paste the spreadsheet in a post after the 1/10 deadline passes so you can proofread what I've entered for everyone. I'm not the most accurate typist. That's why god created secretaries.
I plan on posting periodic updates of the to-date results of our predictions as the year goes on.
We now have 10 persons participating. We need at least 5 or 6 more financial gurus to make their predictions to give us a real good spread.
C'mon, TD.com Money Talk geniuses, JUST DO IT!
Again, if any of you change any of your numbers before the 1/10/13 deadline, please make a separate post about the changes or you risk me not seeing your changes.
I will copy and paste the spreadsheet in a post after the 1/10 deadline passes so you can proofread what I've entered for everyone. I'm not the most accurate typist. That's why god created secretaries.
I plan on posting periodic updates of the to-date results of our predictions as the year goes on.
We now have 10 persons participating. We need at least 5 or 6 more financial gurus to make their predictions to give us a real good spread.
C'mon, TD.com Money Talk geniuses, JUST DO IT!
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:12 am to LSURussian
Dow Jones Industrials: 13,860.52
S&P 500: 1,482.31
Nasdaq: 3,050.65
EUR/USD: 1.355
10 Year Bond: 1.90%
30 Year Bond: 3.05%
Gold: $1,765.25/oz.
Silver: $35.85/oz.
Crude Oil: $92.75/barrel
Natural Gas: $3.72
Wholesale Gasoline: $2.86/gallon
S&P 500: 1,482.31
Nasdaq: 3,050.65
EUR/USD: 1.355
10 Year Bond: 1.90%
30 Year Bond: 3.05%
Gold: $1,765.25/oz.
Silver: $35.85/oz.
Crude Oil: $92.75/barrel
Natural Gas: $3.72
Wholesale Gasoline: $2.86/gallon
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:33 am to LSURussian
Russian,
I don't think we are diverse enough in what we are predicting. How different will the deltas be for each of the major stock indicies? Treasuries? Oil and gasoline? To me this puts too much weight in those areas unless you think more weight should be on those areas. Why is the Euro more important than asian currencies? Anyways, just food for thought. I probably should have said something before the end of the year as the cats out of the bag now...
I don't think we are diverse enough in what we are predicting. How different will the deltas be for each of the major stock indicies? Treasuries? Oil and gasoline? To me this puts too much weight in those areas unless you think more weight should be on those areas. Why is the Euro more important than asian currencies? Anyways, just food for thought. I probably should have said something before the end of the year as the cats out of the bag now...
Posted on 1/2/13 at 8:58 am to C
quote:
How different will the deltas be for each of the major stock indicies?
Don't know. Don't care.
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