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re: What is the biggest movie plot hole you have ever seen?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:43 pm to Carson123987
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:43 pm to Carson123987
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Independence Day virus being compatible with aliens
Wasn't all our modern technology based off the alien technology in the movie?
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Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:47 pm to Blackbeard
Not really a plot hole, but it annoys be to no end how terrible bad guys always shoot in movies. If I had an automatic weapon, I could easily kill all the good guys, especially considering all the chances they get.
Worse than that is how guys in movies never put a bullet in the chamber until they're face-to-face with the bad guy. The sound of them cocking/loading the gun may be a great sound effect for all the people who've never shot a gun, but for me it's just annoying and unrealistic. Particularly with pump shotguns. I mean, if you don't have a shell in the chamber until you start the gunfight, you only get 3 shots instead of 4 (or 2 shots instead of 3, whatever).
Worse than that is how guys in movies never put a bullet in the chamber until they're face-to-face with the bad guy. The sound of them cocking/loading the gun may be a great sound effect for all the people who've never shot a gun, but for me it's just annoying and unrealistic. Particularly with pump shotguns. I mean, if you don't have a shell in the chamber until you start the gunfight, you only get 3 shots instead of 4 (or 2 shots instead of 3, whatever).
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:54 pm to Patrick_Bateman
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Not really a plot hole, but it annoys be to no end how terrible bad guys always shoot in movies. If I had an automatic weapon, I could easily kill all the good guys, especially considering all the chances they get.
Worse than that is how guys in movies never put a bullet in the chamber until they're face-to-face with the bad guy. The sound of them cocking/loading the gun may be a great sound effect for all the people who've never shot a gun, but for me it's just annoying and unrealistic. Particularly with pump shotguns. I mean, if you don't have a shell in the chamber until you start the gunfight, you only get 3 shots instead of 4 (or 2 shots instead of 3, whatever).
Not as mean with this since 90% of people haven't shot guns.
I love when people are shooting at each other with handguns from 40ft away one-handed
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:55 pm to Pectus
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Some posters are saying plot hole when they really mean a poorly designed deus ex machina
From what I remember from Signs, it really isn't that either. We find out that water hurts them and they are fortunate to have some glasses around. That's it. It only solved their small situation, not Earth's.
That doesn't mean aliens would/should bypass our planet's resources just because its dangerous. Humans do all kinds of dangerous shite to get all kinds of things or even for pleasure (skydiving). Also, in Signs, the "invasion" wasn't even an invasion, but a "raiding party." The aliens came for some things and then took off, so this whole, "LOL why did they invade a water planet" is a nonstarter.
They wanted some shite, Earth had it, they took what they could, and left. Mel Gibson finds God again or whatever, that's the movie.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 6:58 pm to Blackbeard
I'm sure it's been said, but Jurassic Park:
T-Rex, who makes the earth shake when he walks, is able to sneak inside a building without anyone noticing.
T-Rex, who makes the earth shake when he walks, is able to sneak inside a building without anyone noticing.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:00 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Battle Los Angeles is one gigantic plot hole. also War of the Worlds, why the frick did martians put this shite in the planet just to kill us all when they could've just stayed there to begin with? and how'd they not pick up on the water thing?
What was the Battle: Los Angeles plot hole? Just that they didn't wipe us out in 30 seconds like they should have? By the way, the shitty Battlefield Earth handled this the best by saying they conquered Earth in 20 minutes. That was probably the most accurate way it would go down. Now, functional retards flying 1,000 year old jet fighters? Not so much.
The only explanation we got for the Martians planting the devices in War of the Worlds was they needed humans to reproduce to the rate that we did. That is why during the movie, they gathered up people, and sprayed their guts all over. That was them "terraforming" the planet for their needs and they needed a lot of human material aka people.
Why did they not just stick around the million years and raise us as slaves the whole time? Not to mention they would have also gained those valuable immunities that cost them at the end. That's the real question.
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:27 pm to TN Bhoy
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T-Rex, who makes the earth shake when he walks, is able to sneak inside a building without anyone
Even worse
The Tyrannosaurus was able to stand on one side of the fence and knock the fence down, then he pushes the Explorer over the barrier, there is no ground there, it's a huge drop off. What the hell was the Tyrannosaurus standing on?
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 7:30 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:33 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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By the way, the shitty Battlefield Earth handled this the best by saying they conquered Earth in 20 minutes.
Funny how that works out sometimes. I mean, Bill and Ted is one of the few movies ever that got the mechanics of time travel 'right' (or at least, something plausible).
From Wiki:
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In 2688, humanity exists as a utopian society due to the inspiration of the music and wisdom of the Two Great Ones: Bill S. Preston, Esq. (Alex Winter) and "Ted" Theodore Logan (Keanu Reeves). Rufus (George Carlin) is tasked by the leaders to travel back to San Dimas, California of 1988 using a time machine shaped like a phone booth to ensure that the Bill and Ted, then dim-witted high school students, successfully pass a history class. Should they fail, Ted's father, police captain Logan (Hal Langdon), plans to ship Ted to a military academy in Alaska, ending Bill & Ted's fledgling band, the "Wyld Stallyns", and altering the future.
Rufus finds the two teenagers struggling to finish their history paper, which tasks them to describe how three historical figures would view San Dimas of the present, trying to obtain help from customers at a local Circle K convenience store. Rufus initially has difficulty convincing the two of his help when a copy of the phone booth time machine arrives, and versions of Bill and Ted from some hours in the future step out. They are able to convince their earlier selves that Rufus can be trusted by correctly guessing the number the two were thinking of, sixty-nine. The future Bill and Ted briefly discuss their situation with Rufus before disappearing.
How many movies get this wrong?This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 7:38 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:34 pm to Breesus
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Batman jumps out the window to save maggie gillenahall(thats who she played. she was not Rachael Dawes) and leaves the joker in a room full of innocent victims. Nothing ever happens to those people and apparently the joker just leaves peacefully and batman never goes after him.
Not a plot hole
Posted on 12/11/12 at 7:38 pm to Tiger1242
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I love Harry Potter books, I mean I'm obsessed, but if you're gonna throw pot holes in it, don't start with this one
Especially with wand logic. No person would ever have wand loyalty in that universe unless they were literally the world's best duelist.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 8:18 pm to Blackbeard
Most of these movies/genres I am a fan of, but some of the crap that irks me.....
Zombie movies/shows: Since zombies are all soulless creatures who chew live flesh ravenously, how are so many thousands of people only bitten once, get away, only to become zombies themselves? Shouldn't 90%+ of the victims of zombie attacks be ripped apart and devoured, not returning as zombies?
SAW: how does the Jigsaw not freaking breath during the whole movie as he lays on the ground?
Unbreakable: Main character possess super human strength and stamina. Despite being a collegiate football player, he doesn't realize this until his mid 40s. His team must have never maxed out or he must have never touched the ball.......
Kingdom of Heaven: I know this a touchy subject, but this movie was full of them. 1)A blacksmith gets 1 sword lesson in the woods from his estranged dad, and becomes the baddest arse fighter in the movie. 2) Ship wrecks on the way to the Holy Land, only the lead actor and his horse survives, unscratched. 3) Orlando Bloom goes from peasant blacksmith to an awesome military leader and strategist without any explanation. Havent seen it in a while, but I am remember them being more.
Independence Day: Why didnt the Aliens question that a solo ship was returning without its massive squadron or mother-ship, and do they not recognize that this particular ship disappeared from the fleet 50 years prior?
Oceans 11: why in the hell would Terry Benedict keep important info in his coat pocket? And why is he dealing with a simple dealer bust by himself?
Cowboys and Aliens: WTF does an advance civilization need gold for? Even Harrison Ford's character said "what are they going to do, buy something from us?"
Transformers: giant freeking robots fist fight and laser fight, knocking over buildings and pyramids, but only a handful people are actually killed......
Zombie movies/shows: Since zombies are all soulless creatures who chew live flesh ravenously, how are so many thousands of people only bitten once, get away, only to become zombies themselves? Shouldn't 90%+ of the victims of zombie attacks be ripped apart and devoured, not returning as zombies?
SAW: how does the Jigsaw not freaking breath during the whole movie as he lays on the ground?
Unbreakable: Main character possess super human strength and stamina. Despite being a collegiate football player, he doesn't realize this until his mid 40s. His team must have never maxed out or he must have never touched the ball.......
Kingdom of Heaven: I know this a touchy subject, but this movie was full of them. 1)A blacksmith gets 1 sword lesson in the woods from his estranged dad, and becomes the baddest arse fighter in the movie. 2) Ship wrecks on the way to the Holy Land, only the lead actor and his horse survives, unscratched. 3) Orlando Bloom goes from peasant blacksmith to an awesome military leader and strategist without any explanation. Havent seen it in a while, but I am remember them being more.
Independence Day: Why didnt the Aliens question that a solo ship was returning without its massive squadron or mother-ship, and do they not recognize that this particular ship disappeared from the fleet 50 years prior?
Oceans 11: why in the hell would Terry Benedict keep important info in his coat pocket? And why is he dealing with a simple dealer bust by himself?
Cowboys and Aliens: WTF does an advance civilization need gold for? Even Harrison Ford's character said "what are they going to do, buy something from us?"
Transformers: giant freeking robots fist fight and laser fight, knocking over buildings and pyramids, but only a handful people are actually killed......
This post was edited on 12/11/12 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:07 pm to Pectus
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NOT a plot hole. A plot hole is this: quote: A plot hole, or plothole, is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that goes against the flow of logic established by the story's plot, or constitutes a blatant omission of relevant information regarding the plot. These include such things as unlikely behaviour or actions of characters, illogical or impossible events, events happening for no apparent reason, or statements/events that contradict earlier events in the storyline. The aliens' tendency to stay away from water is MENTIONED IN THE STORY. It is not a plot hole. Some posters are saying plot hole when they really mean a poorly designed deus ex machina
Thank you.
And some people are calling poor editing (for example) a plot hole...
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:19 pm to OMLandshark
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Especially with wand logic. No person would ever have wand loyalty in that universe unless they were literally the world's best duelist.
Yea this was fine for most of the series because it was said that your magic wouldn't work the same or as well with a different wand. Your wand and you worked best together and that's why you "find" each other. Then the whole Elder Wand thing is thrown in, making it so that some wands are just better than others, regardless of whether or not you and it are compatible...
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:24 pm to MTB
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Kingdom of Heaven: I know this a touchy subject, but this movie was full of them. 1)A blacksmith gets 1 sword lesson in the woods from his estranged dad, and becomes the baddest arse fighter in the movie. 2) Ship wrecks on the way to the Holy Land, only the lead actor and his horse survives, unscratched. 3) Orlando Bloom goes from peasant blacksmith to an awesome military leader and strategist without any explanation. Havent seen it in a while, but I am remember them being more.
This is just Hollywood being Hollywood. The real history of Balian fighting in the crusades is much different.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:35 pm to Tiger1242
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The whole point of that though is you can only open it if you speak Parseltongue (or if you're Ron and have "heard Harry say it a lot", speaking of plot holes ). So generally unless you are a powerful Slytherin you shouldn't be able to open it
I think the major plot hole is that they would not have indoor plumbing 1,000 years ago when the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets was made. They had to run those pipes somehow, likely in the last 100 years. Wouldn't they have discovered the Chamber of Secrets when they did that? Or are we assuming water flow through pipes was controlled by magic when Hogwarts was first created?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:37 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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From what I remember from Signs, it really isn't that either. We find out that water hurts them and they are fortunate to have some glasses around. That's it. It only solved their small situation, not Earth's.
That doesn't mean aliens would/should bypass our planet's resources just because its dangerous. Humans do all kinds of dangerous shite to get all kinds of things or even for pleasure (skydiving). Also, in Signs, the "invasion" wasn't even an invasion, but a "raiding party." The aliens came for some things and then took off, so this whole, "LOL why did they invade a water planet" is a nonstarter.
They wanted some shite, Earth had it, they took what they could, and left. Mel Gibson finds God again or whatever, that's the movie.
Good post.
I like how one sentence can rip a plot open, but one sentence that's a good rebuttal cannot mend a plot.
I for one think that there are no such things as plot holes or poorly designed deus ex machinae in any type of alien movie. They are supposed to be beings well advanced beyond our species. Who are we to presume that they won't overlook something though?
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:38 pm to Blackbeard
Any movie with Sarah Jessica Parker that pretends she's pretty.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 9:58 pm to LeonPhelps
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I think the major plot hole is that they would not have indoor plumbing 1,000 years ago when the entrance to the Chamber of Secrets was made. They had to run those pipes somehow, likely in the last 100 years. Wouldn't they have discovered the Chamber of Secrets when they did that?
No bc the Chamber would have been closed. Remember the Chamber was opened by Voldemort, and than again by his diary to let the snake out; for the rest of the times it was closed. It's not like that snake just had constant access to the Castles plumbing, it was only let out sometimes and when it wasn't the Chamber stayed sealed. Not to mention with the room of requirement it's already been established that rooms can be hidden unless you know what you're looking for
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:51 pm to Tactical1
T Rex and the cliff is easily the worst one mentioned so far.
Posted on 12/11/12 at 10:54 pm to bbap
Indy's hat was thrown to him by no one!!!
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