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re: LSU would be stupid to let Les Miles go
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:08 am to Jester
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:08 am to Jester
don't always look at this as a purely football decision but more of a business decision. LSU is overflowing with money from the football program. we are at an all time high financially. miles deserves a modest raise based on the high financial success of the LSU FOOTBALL BUSINESS.
normally executives are paid based on some combination of what their piers make plus market conditions. it appears with all the sec coaching vacancies that the market value of coaches has gone up. no matter what the rant thinks, schools are willing to pay more for guys with far less credentials than les. thus, his value has risen so pay him more. too risky to do otherwise
normally executives are paid based on some combination of what their piers make plus market conditions. it appears with all the sec coaching vacancies that the market value of coaches has gone up. no matter what the rant thinks, schools are willing to pay more for guys with far less credentials than les. thus, his value has risen so pay him more. too risky to do otherwise
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Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:09 am to jwill37
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Jester
I'm not saying we should get rid of him and my point about turning around a program is not asinoine at all. To be paid more than he is now is just crazy. The OP wants to give him a raise. I just think making more than he does now would be determined by what kind of coach he really is. You pay coaches that can turn around a program that kin d of money not one that barely gets it done with great talent as is.
But bringing in a replacement is the alternative, and that is an EXTREMELY risky alternative. That's the point that you are missing. To bring in a big name replacement, he's probably asking for more than Miles. That guy may very well suck goat balls, as well. With Miles, we have a winner and a known commodity. Ride that horse until it falters.
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We've not had a good offensive coordinator in what 6 years? Maybe use the extra money for that. Good lord there are some idiots on here.
You are missing the forest for the trees here. I'd rather get to the national championship game with an ugly offense than light up the field and never win shite like June Jones.
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Good lord there are some idiots on here.
Mirror Mirror
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:09 am to oldschoolgreats
Exactly.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:09 am to oldschoolgreats
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no matter what the rant thinks, schools are willing to pay more for guys with far less credentials than les. thus, his value has risen so pay him more.
And the cost of hiring a replacement will be higher, as well.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:12 am to Statestreet
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This is when you know the fan is a newbie to LSU football. Too bad you weren't around in the 90's to see what bad really is.
too bad you weren't around in the 50's to see how good it was
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:13 am to jwill37
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You pay coaches that can turn around a program that kin d of money not one that barely gets it done with great talent as is.
So having a mirror image of bama game last year, beating an extremely good A&M team at their place (bama didnt) and losing to a #4 in the swamp is barely scraping by? Yeah we should have won other games "easier" but also playing 5 ranked teams in a row is now joke.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:13 am to Jester
No raise.
If Arkansas wants to pay him $5M a year to go 8-4 at best (and that would be his best at a place like Arkansas) I say more power to them.
BTW...most Arkansas fans are one of the two:
1) scared shitless that Les could be their new HC
2) think Long is a genius troll by bluffing LSU into giving Miles an undeserved raise
If Arkansas wants to pay him $5M a year to go 8-4 at best (and that would be his best at a place like Arkansas) I say more power to them.
BTW...most Arkansas fans are one of the two:
1) scared shitless that Les could be their new HC
2) think Long is a genius troll by bluffing LSU into giving Miles an undeserved raise
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:14 am to Maximus
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too bad you weren't around in the 50's to see how good it was
herf herf herf herf
herf herf
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:15 am to GABlueDog
If Miles went to Arky he'd have an SEC title within 5 years
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:15 am to Tigerbait337
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People think we can do better. It's not bad to think that, but the risk/reward isn't worth it.
I won't argue with that but I'll add I have 0% confidence in Joe Alleva making a good hire if it becomes necessary.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:17 am to Choctaw
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If Miles went to Arky he'd have an SEC title within 5 years
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:18 am to Tigerbait337
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People think we can do better. It's not bad to think that, but the risk/reward isn't worth it.
Not many coaches better than Les. Plus, as you can tell with the coaching change in 05.. This recruiting class will blow up due to the large number of OOS kids. I still think the 05 class was the reason for our down year in 08
This. You people wishing him gone are fools, FOOLS! That's right, i said "you people."
This post was edited on 11/28/12 at 8:19 am
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:20 am to Ghostfacedistiller
LSU has "played" in 4 NC games in its entire history....Miles has been in 2 of them and these idiots want him gone. It's baffling.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:22 am to GABlueDog
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If Miles went to Arky he'd have an SEC title within 5 years
This is you mind on drugs.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:27 am to Choctaw
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LSU has "played" in 4 NC games in its entire history....Miles has been in 2 of them and these idiots want him gone. It's baffling.
This. I'm curious if people can name a program that has had similar sustained success over an 8 year period, got rid of a coach (for whatever reason)and continued to keep going at that pace, maybe outside of Notre Dame in the 60s and 70s.
I look to Nebrakska in 2003 when 10 wins were no longer good enough, as what could be comparable.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:29 am to Choctaw
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LSU has "played" in 4 NC games in its entire history....Miles has been in 2 of them and these idiots want him gone. It's baffling.
And coming off an SEC championship this past season too.
That's okay most of these idiots said they'd take Holgorsen over Miles and that dude lost 5 straight this season.
And these idiots would probably still take him. It's not worth it taking a flashy Head coach to come in to your program.. If he fails, then you are subject to a snowball of failing hires. Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:34 am to Ghostfacedistiller
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I look to Nebrakska in 2003 when 10 wins were no longer good enough, as what could be comparable.
Tennessee, Auburn are good examples too. People that are so willing and ready to accept a change in coaching are fools. Plain and simple.
There is waaaay to much money at stake to risk on the immature wishes of some pimply faced ultranegative trolls on the internet.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:34 am to SouljaBreauxTellEm
LSU needs to retain CLM. That is all.
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:34 am to LSU GrandDad
no raise
hope he stays however
hope he stays however
Posted on 11/28/12 at 8:35 am to Choctaw
When did you become a Les Miles fan over being a LSU fan?
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