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Posted on 12/23/11 at 11:18 pm to udtiger
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Hell no! She's too much of a competitor and would not frick over her teammates like that.
Either people who believe this read it in a book or they are just gullible.
I think they must be the same guys that think LSU would never cheat in college athletics.
Maybe I'm just cynical but I've always viewed it as being the same thing that the sister Big East team did for the one UConn ladies player who was injured. Just women being soft.
Posted on 12/23/11 at 11:26 pm to Zamoro10
Those are valid arguments, I'm just going by the fact that Dottie always stuck up for Kit, would only play if Kit could, etc. In the end Kit could never get over Dottie being better and Dottie could never stop helping Kit.
This might be one of the best, worst arguments I've ever been a part of,
This might be one of the best, worst arguments I've ever been a part of,
Posted on 12/23/11 at 11:47 pm to Fletch F Fletch
Yeah...there is probably the potential for a real answer in the film...based on the clues, principles of logic and life philosophy.
And yet, all this angst over a Penny Marshall film?
Who, like a lot of movies, left it deliberately ambiguous depending on how you see things...which makes it good/bad and interesting.
And yet, all this angst over a Penny Marshall film?
Who, like a lot of movies, left it deliberately ambiguous depending on how you see things...which makes it good/bad and interesting.
This post was edited on 12/23/11 at 11:49 pm
Posted on 12/24/11 at 12:00 am to udtiger
Of course she dropped it on purpose. Throughout the whole movie, we see Dottie catch foul balls behind her back, while doing a spilt, and falling head first in the dugout. You honestly think she couldn't hold onto the ball when Kit slid into her?
Really?
Really?
Posted on 12/24/11 at 12:27 am to SaKi
People who think she dropped it on purpose need to DIAF.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 8:26 am to ChewyDante
God made her drop it because of her pride.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 9:03 am to ChewyDante
Damn people are taking this seriously.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 9:03 am to LSUSUPERSTAR
Kit wiped that bitch out. She straight up dropped it.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 9:24 am to Fletch F Fletch
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I always thought she dropped it on purpose. It's evident in the smile she has when she looks back to see Kit being carried off the field.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 10:50 am to HeadSlash
I always interpreted it as she dropped it on purpose, even though I hate the fact that whiny little Kit gets her way in the end. Dottie was willing to quit the team because of the strain in her relationship with Kit. That's why Kit got traded before the championship game. Even though she's fiercely competitive, she was still willing to sacrifice that for her sister.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 3:08 pm to Freauxzen
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Damn people are taking this seriously.
Page and a half before someone said something? Bunch of freaks up in here.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 3:20 pm to udtiger
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Like I said, if it did not matter to her, then she'd have kept driving to Oregon.
i think the point is, is that when her sister was rounding the bases, she realized she needed to give her sister the break. it meant more to her sister at that point in their lives
Posted on 12/24/11 at 3:24 pm to Zamoro10
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Dottie wouldn't be proud of Kit if she gave her the game.
dottie was just happy that her sister got the spotlight for once
that's the whole reason why she decided to drop the ball
This post was edited on 12/24/11 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:04 pm to the smoke monster
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She didn't?
Do you think her team mates might have questioned it? At the end of the movie they welcome her warmly at the HOF ceremony. If you have an female relatives of that generation, you would know there is no fricking way they would forgive Dottie for dropping the ball, not matter how many years later.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:17 pm to udtiger
They left that open on purpose so each person could come up with their own interpretation.
That said, I think she dropped it on purpose. Later she tells Kit "I guess you wanted it more than I did."
That said, I think she dropped it on purpose. Later she tells Kit "I guess you wanted it more than I did."
Posted on 12/24/11 at 5:21 pm to Zamoro10
I didn't get the impression that they only reconciled at the reunion. It seemed like they patched things up years before that.
Posted on 12/24/11 at 6:38 pm to LordSaintly
Alright 9 year old, you're making me throw my hat back into this one for one more time!
I can understand the "Dottie dropped it on purpose" crowd. One can make a very good argument for it, and I am of a mind to think that the filmmakers intended the debate. But it makes less sense with the flow of the movie as a whole.
There are two choices to how Dottie could have acted in the end of the game and how they would have represented the movie:
1) She purposefully drops the ball. This goes TOTALLY against her own nature at that point and what Kit would have wanted, but with a degree of good nature that reflects her future life for herself. The problem is this movie is about women (doing something that was done just by men) learning self determination and counting on each other. This would go against self determination by taking it away from Kit and against counting on one another as Dottie let her teammates (the other 95% of the main cast) down.
2) She tried her hardest to beat even her sister, but came up short. (That's baseball!) This would go correctly with Dotties true nature, the nature she may have lost a bit of as a wife, but remembers at Cooperstown. This ending reflects the motives of the girls, the movie, and jives with the Cooperstown endings better. In Cooperstown Dottie rediscovers herself, not JUST memories of "giving it away." I would be awefully depressed if I was Dottie in Cooperstown if I knew my last time on the field I didn't give it my all and I gift wrapped my competitive sister's biggest win.
So, the question is, is one so certain of Dotties awesomeness that she can only have lost by giving it to Kit, going contrary to what either character wants on the field, and going contrary to the lessons and best flow of the movie?
I can understand the "Dottie dropped it on purpose" crowd. One can make a very good argument for it, and I am of a mind to think that the filmmakers intended the debate. But it makes less sense with the flow of the movie as a whole.
There are two choices to how Dottie could have acted in the end of the game and how they would have represented the movie:
1) She purposefully drops the ball. This goes TOTALLY against her own nature at that point and what Kit would have wanted, but with a degree of good nature that reflects her future life for herself. The problem is this movie is about women (doing something that was done just by men) learning self determination and counting on each other. This would go against self determination by taking it away from Kit and against counting on one another as Dottie let her teammates (the other 95% of the main cast) down.
2) She tried her hardest to beat even her sister, but came up short. (That's baseball!) This would go correctly with Dotties true nature, the nature she may have lost a bit of as a wife, but remembers at Cooperstown. This ending reflects the motives of the girls, the movie, and jives with the Cooperstown endings better. In Cooperstown Dottie rediscovers herself, not JUST memories of "giving it away." I would be awefully depressed if I was Dottie in Cooperstown if I knew my last time on the field I didn't give it my all and I gift wrapped my competitive sister's biggest win.
So, the question is, is one so certain of Dotties awesomeness that she can only have lost by giving it to Kit, going contrary to what either character wants on the field, and going contrary to the lessons and best flow of the movie?
Posted on 12/24/11 at 8:27 pm to Fletch F Fletch
[quote]I always thought she dropped it on purpose. It's evident in the smile she has when she looks back to see Kit being carried off the field. quote]
I always thought she dropped it on purpose
I always thought she dropped it on purpose
Posted on 12/24/11 at 8:32 pm to Tigercat
I think you can interpret the ending either way. I choose to believe that the drop wasn't intentional.
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