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Oregon fall camp (all days): tidbits you should know (long)

Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:06 am
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13325 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:06 am
I thought I'd update the LSU faithful on relevant tidbits coming from the "other" camp. I can see your fanbase salivating on every little morsel that's available from your own. Anyway, here are the things I've picked up perusing every article available to me.

1) The biggest news is De'Anthony Thomas. He is 5'9" 173 per the new media guide that is not posted online yet (showing 160 on scout, rivals and goducks). He has been gushed over by everyone during voluntary workouts and the same thread continued today. Everyone that watched today said he was arguably the most noticable player. He is a true frosh that was rated 5* at four different positions by scount (cb, s, rb, wr). Chip said today that he was working with the rb coach exclusively. I was surprised by this since the players were saying he'd play in the slot, which is open due to Huff playing out wide and Lavasier Tuinei as well. The slot is open. CK has repeatedly said he is concerned about the #3 rb spot. With Lache sitting at that spot, read into it what you will.

2) LMJ and Barner look abolutely yoked. Both of them are listed on every roster around 180-185. LMJ said today that he added 15 pounds and Barner told KVAL, local ABC affiliate, that he is 195. That is considerable weight for both of them (barner was 180). LMJ says he is about 200. I say this because rb was thin last year and LMJ needs this weight to sustain a high level.

3) Darron Thomas is the leader of this team. This has been a soundbite thoughout summer and has continued into today. With a team that lost a ton of seniors, leadership was a void. DT seems to be stepping in well. A lot of people see similiarities between this offense and the one that went to Boise in '09. That offense returned no regular starter on the oline, had Maehl in the receiving corp going from slot to the outside, a TE and Masoli. The correlation is minimal at best.

4) The oline will continue to be the most talked about unit going into a game against LSU. The media is following the same mantra as on this board: the battle will be in trenches. Our interior oline will be a big focus needless to say. Today Grasu started with the ones and not Armstrong, our 260 pound center. Grasu is a redshirt frosh that played in the same system in high school in California's toughest league. He is our most athletic option and is a technician. This is not that surprising to me. However, watch for the two deep to be somewhat fluid for another week and half until they settle. Armstrong was with the twos along side Stevens, the 315 pound center prospect returning from his mission, at right guard, which is another spot open. Also of note, Jake Fisher was in the two deep as a true frosh. He is a massive human being that was pulled from Big 10 country and a late surprising signee.

5) ILB is going to be an interesting spot. Alonso, charged with criminal mischief, played with the twos. His status is unknown for LSU because CK left it open ended. Stuckey got time with the ones. Alonso is clearly the best ILB and it showed today in practice. His inclusion in the second unit is telling. Also of note, he split some snaps with true frosh Anthony Wallace. It's looking like Alonso misses the LSU game, as he probably should.

Anyway, this is from a compilation of several articles that you can find on www.ducksportsnow.com. Feel free to ask questions or to tell me to frick myself.
This post was edited on 8/10/11 at 7:05 pm
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61871 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:20 am to
quote:

A lot of people see similiarities between this offense and the one that went to Boise in '09.


I do as well and expect the same results.
Posted by hemiroid
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2009
1460 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:25 am to
Thanks for the update and hopefully all that weight LMJ and Barner gained gained doesn't slow them down any! Lol joking. The Trenches is where it will be decided. Our run game against yours. The extra weight will come in handy for them; well LMJ anyways.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61871 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:25 am to
For those that haven't seen him:

Black Mamba
Posted by bisonduck
Oregon City, OR
Member since Apr 2011
13325 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:31 am to
quote:

I do as well and expect the same results.


I am going to be sleeping soon but let me tell you why this is different:

1) the offensive line starts returning in '09 were 20. This year we return 54. The 20 returning starts ranked 118 with only 2 returning fewer. Furthermore, these were split between 4 players, namely Asper (1), Kaiser (11), Thran (4), Holmes (4). This year we have York/Asper with 20+ and Weems with 8 and Cody 1. This is a much different scenario.

2) Our rb, Blount, was overweight and the backup from the year before. LMJ was the #2 coming off his redshirt.

3) Maehl was the only returning WR with experience and he was moving from the slot outside. This year we go in with Lavasier Tuinei and Huff.

4) Masoli was not near the passer that DT is nor the leader.

What happened on that depressing night in Boise was a convergence of several factors that probably won't be present in 2011. However, we Duck fans remain skittish.
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 2:40 am
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61871 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:40 am to
quote:

let me tell you why this is different:



LSU's defense is much, much better than Boise's. Also, the biggest key that isn't being talked about is LSU's conditioning. Practicing in 100+ degrees with 90-100% humidity for a month before this game will be a huge advantage for LSU. I understand that the game will be inside in the AC. I'm referencing Oregon's pace on offense that wears teams down. LSU will not wear down in this one with the conditioning and depth advantage. I picked Oregon by 3 in March. The more and more this one has been discussed though, I really see LSU winning this one.
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
61871 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:46 am to
Oregon is training in this:

Low of 52, High of 83 the next week.

Advantage LSU
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130300 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 2:49 am to
quote:

Low of 52, High of 83 the next week.


Wouldn't mind that weather around here.
Posted by NorfolkVATiger
Guam
Member since Nov 2005
2786 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:03 am to
Thanks for the report, Bison. You're one of the best visiting OOC posters we've had here.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
Just across the water...
Member since Aug 2009
25057 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 3:48 am to
This post was edited on 8/9/11 at 3:49 am
Posted by ctigersgo
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2008
105 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 5:57 am to
I had respect for your post up until the point of your last sentence. I realized then you have no brains.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20335 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 6:36 am to
I'm really looking forward to watching Thomas play. At least against everyone else but us. Hopefully his nerves cause mistakes in Dallas, but I doubt it. Kid has superstar written all over him.

On another note, I realize you guys are excited about the potential of the young guys, but thrs a good amount of freshmen on your 2 deep OL. Hopefully you won't need them.
Posted by canyon
MM23
Member since Dec 2003
21343 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 7:18 am to
I enjoy your posts. Intelligent, insightful and honest. A breath of fresh air.

Now go frick yourself. Just kidding.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 7:18 am to
quote:


I had respect for your post up until the point of your last sentence. I realized then you have no brains.



is it different now than it was? I think it's fine - he knows the typical reaction on this board.
Posted by CPT Tiger
My own personal Hell
Member since Oct 2009
1348 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 7:22 am to
I was reading Phil Steele the other day. I know it is a preseason mag but he usually does a good job and anything he misses he updates on his website.

He actually said he considers the Ducks O-line to be a top rated line but their inexperience will factor in during the early part of the season.

FWIW
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33206 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 7:23 am to
to be relying on true freshman in the trenches is not good......esp facing the dline we will be using.

Kelly is a fantastic coach and I expect him to have a game plan to help the oline. Along with the no huddle, we will see quick plays that dont rely on long blocking engagements. Dink dunk.

BUT, the no huddle can back fire on inexperienced linemen.
Posted by ctigersgo
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2008
105 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 7:59 am to
It is true that I have few post. I look at the rant almost daily. You are right, the typical post on this board is dissappointing because people have to be "cool" to use the language they use to express themselves.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20335 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 8:02 am to
I'm wondering too if playing on the big stage will be a massive distraction. If they get caught watching the jumbotron on a quick snap it could be a disaster. Same thing applies to us, but at least we've been there.
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 8:42 am to
quote:

He actually said he considers the Ducks O-line to be a top rated line but their inexperience will factor in during the early part of the season.

Phil Steel also said lsu would lose 4 games last year. Does he give a reason their O-line will be good or is he just talking out of his arse like always.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
85188 posts
Posted on 8/9/11 at 9:00 am to
You remind me of every other OOC poster who regaled us with tales of the greatness of their team for weeks/months ad nauseum.

Believe it or not we even had an Oregon State guy who was here every day for maybe six months;he was funnier than you.

Then they got their beat-down.
Then they came back and said "you were right".

Relax little Duckie. This is LSU, you have to feel the pain to fully comprehend.
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