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re: Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:48 am to Buda
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:48 am to Buda
Nice try to not be a fair weather fan. Lee is still the closest thing to a qb we have. The playcalling sucked. It is obvious jefferson can't fricking throw. Wide open receivers and not hitting them in stride. yea they dropped some passes but some of them were so far off target. Style the offense around lee and we will be a much better team on offense. 
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Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:48 am to Buda
I don't think JL is all that bad. Perfect, no, but not bad.
His problem is that our offense is SO predictable, he is in no position to have success.
Now, as much as I dislike JJ, the coaches aren't helping him either.
Both of these QBs and the team in general have suffered long enough from lack of coaching. Unfortunately we are probably stuck with it for a few more years at least.
His problem is that our offense is SO predictable, he is in no position to have success.
Now, as much as I dislike JJ, the coaches aren't helping him either.
Both of these QBs and the team in general have suffered long enough from lack of coaching. Unfortunately we are probably stuck with it for a few more years at least.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:48 am to josh336
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Put Lee in....whats the worst that will happen, we could struggle, he could throw some picks, don't worry, JJ already does that enough.
I'm not even worried about the picks.
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Get someone to work with him on stepping up in the pocket when hes about to release.
It hasn't happened in three years, I have no reason to believe it's going to happen in 2 weeks.
Our OL is what it is. It's a solid unit that got completely outclassed Saturday. We excel at zone blocking in the running game, and in general struggle to protect in the passing game, particularly on deep drops that allow for deep passing. That's why we haven't seen any of that open up, for either QB, sans 1 throw for Lee against Tennessee.
Lee is more or less a statue, and also doesn't react to pressure well. JJ holds the ball too fricking long, but at least has the capability to break free of the pocket and scramble for yardage (which he has done consistently all year).
I'm not saying Lee should never play. And I'm not singing JJ's praises either. I just think if we try to use one or the other, we're going to end up with a worse product than we've already seen.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:50 am to Ultraclassictiger
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It is obvious jefferson can't fricking throw. Wide open receivers and not hitting them in stride. yea they dropped some passes but some of them were so far off target.
I guess you haven't watched Lee do this for the past two weeks now. I gave him a pass for McNeese, because the whole team was lethargic, but it came up again in a bad way against Auburn.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:50 am to OBUDan
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I just think if we try to use one or the other, we're going to end up with a worse product than we've already seen.
I understand you want to use them both, but how is the above statement even possible? I just can't see it.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:51 am to OBUDan
As much as I think the offensive scheme that we are trying to force is the problem, the QBs themselves are also a problem. Just hope Mettenberger comes to LSU and he's able to run a successful offense.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:52 am to OBUDan
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I just think if we try to use one or the other, we're going to end up with a worse product than we've already seen.
Actuall I think if we lined up in a classic pro-set with Lee at QB and called plays suited to our strength of pounding the ball up the middle with play action off of that, we would be fine.
Not Oregon level fine, but good enough to move the ball against the rest of our opponents.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:54 am to CarlockLSU
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Just hope Mettenberger comes to LSU and he's able to run a successful offense.
Do you honestly expect him to do any better with the clowns we have running this team.
Peyton Manning would have troubel executuing plays when everybody in the stadium knows exactly what is coming.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:55 am to Buda
These QB threads drive me crazy. We do not have a QB to quarterback our team for the 3rd straight year. Any QB recruit who has passed on LSU is nuts. One only has to watch film of 2007 and Matt Flynn to see how successful a good QB can be in our system. We just don't know how anyone will turnout once they start playing.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:58 am to Buda
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Plain and simple: he's scared of getting hit
fail....
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Both of which can easily result in INTs
Jefferson has 8...
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If he puts his head down, accelrates and stretches, he might just get the first down.
wtf ever....no one could have made that...
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So I think we will continue to see the coaching staff try to manage risj=k as best they can - using both QBs and trying to avoid either making crucial mistakes that kill us.
jj threw the int (that led to a score)...and damn near threw 2 more
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I do not ever expect Lee to start as they simply cannot trust him to bow up and make plays when it counts.
guess you missed the Tenn and Fla games....
Posted on 10/25/10 at 9:58 am to TenTex
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Any QB recruit who has passed on LSU is nuts. One only has to watch film of 2007 and Matt Flynn to see how successful a good QB can be in our system
No, any recruit who passes on this coaching staff is SMART. We cannot develop QBs as is painfully obvious now.
As far as 2007, GC kept jimbos system for the most part, his offense did not really come into play untill 08. This has been well documented.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:03 am to jimbeaux82
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JL was not the answer against Aub for one simple reason - Predictability. JL took 19 snaps - threw 14 passes. When he comes in, all the Aub D had to do was pin their ears back and rush like hell. No wonder we could not block them under those circumstances. If JL were given the proper chance, coming in the game when we are not in a bind, the results would be much different. This is bad coaching decisions - pure and simple.
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Lee makes throw that Jj misses
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:06 am to RBWilliams8
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JL was not the answer against Aub for one simple reason - Predictability. JL took 19 snaps - threw 14 passes. When he comes in, all the Aub D had to do was pin their ears back and rush like hell. No wonder we could not block them under those circumstances. If JL were given the proper chance, coming in the game when we are not in a bind, the results would be much different. This is bad coaching decisions - pure and simple.
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Lee makes throw that Jj misses
ill buy this too...they came after him every time...fricking idiots on here think Jlee let us down....fricking stupid....hell he even came back with a sprained wrist on his throwing arm.....
Jlee plays that whole game i think its a different score...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:07 am to Buda
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Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer.
We would be 5-3 without Lee
GTFO
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:09 am to memphis tiger
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Do you honestly expect him to do any better with the clowns we have running this team
Do you honestly expect Crowton to be here next year? Miles will return (as much as I hate it) because he will win at least 9 games again this year. Crowton however, I have to believe is gone.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:09 am to OBUDan
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The offense has been noticeably better with both guys playing.
You say that but you haven't had the opportunity to compare only Lee playing
You don't know what the results would be if JJ didn't go in the game at all
Lee is a rhythm passer and it's a bit unfair to Lee that the offense has no balance when he is in the game. It would be nice to see Lee play a full game with some balance on offense.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:13 am to Buda
You do realize JL was hurt in the second half?
I was at the game and it seemed the LSU QBs were on their back more than a TriDelt at a fraternity swap
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he's scared of getting hit
I was at the game and it seemed the LSU QBs were on their back more than a TriDelt at a fraternity swap
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:14 am to Powerman
JL IS the answer right now. He may not be perfect, he does have flaws, but he is the only option that makes sense.
If JL played the entire game then Auburn would have to not load the box because he would have made some throws and SR could have worked them over with runs. The score would have been different, but I don't know if they outcome would have.
If JL played the entire game then Auburn would have to not load the box because he would have made some throws and SR could have worked them over with runs. The score would have been different, but I don't know if they outcome would have.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:18 am to Buda
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If he puts his head down, accelrates and stretches, he might just get the first down.
Are you frickING RETARDED? Plus, the guy Tolliver wiffed on is not the guy who tackled him, it was a different 4.4 guy!
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Did anyone notice on the final fourth down
Nope! I was on Skype telling Miles he had more buggers in his nose and Crowton was on 3-way with us talking about how distracting the pom-poms were.
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Bottom line, he gets scared, gets happy feet, doesn't set to throw, and is a huge INT risk.
Usaually the case with a qb that gets very limited reps in practice and never knows when he gets to go in.
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Observation #1: Jarett Lee is NOT the answer
Observation#2 Niether is your post
Posted on 10/25/10 at 10:19 am to CajunFootball
Actually calling a screen pass on a 3rd or 2nd and long would be a start. Naw, lets just run some deep routes and hope Auburn's 6 or 7 guys don't get to the qb in time
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