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Posted on 12/6/09 at 7:46 pm to philter
Louisville just doesn't have the pull to bring in guys that can compete with others in the BE. It's a basketball school. Their stadium is named after Papa John
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:14 pm to As RXd
Man I don't get the Kragthopre histeria....please don't let him come here as coordinator. Surely we can do better than him? Did any of you watch Louisville the last few years? Wow.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:34 pm to NorfolkVATiger
quote:Agreed. After doing some research, LSU can do better.
Man I don't get the Kragthopre histeria....please don't let him come here as coordinator. Surely we can do better than him? Did any of you watch Louisville the last few years? Wow.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:36 pm to Mudbugs
Sounds like Tolbert would be a great hire, but it seems like he could get another NFL job fairly easily. I would assume that WR coaches make quite a bit more in the NFL than in the SEC.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:50 pm to belowpar
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belowpar
A freaking god among men sir
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:51 pm to Books
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running off players bc they're thugs, ok
ok, and these werent his players
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He mis-evaluated players, that's on him.
you act as if its easy to nail every juco recruit you bring in
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His team was terrible, you said it yourself, that's on him
LOL
how is it on him when he cant even field a full roster without walkons and jucos bc he had to kick off bobbys thugs
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I don't like hiring a guy you have to make all these excuses for.
i wouldnt want to do that either, but i know a little more about what went down, and i know it was a shitty situation from the get go and he was never a good fit.
and still, you are totally dismissing his offense when he had good players. hes here to coach qbs and call plays, hes not here to be a major recruiter or coach defense.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:54 pm to Books
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but I'm not sold on him as the best that LSU could attract.
How about you suggest another name rather than simply complaining about this one.
Who is it that you like better?
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:54 pm to Books
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Even more so than that, Kragthorpe never fully utilized the talent on his team. For example, in 2007, instead of using 6-foot-6 receiver Mario Urrutia as a vertical threat as Petrino had, Kragthorpe's offense often called plays for Urrutia to go over the middle or catch screen passes. An unhappy Urrutia wound up leaving after the season as a junior.
mario urrutia was a POS who was alledgedly involved in a point shaving scandal. after you heard about it, and you watched the games, you were like, wow, i could seriously see that
if he was so good, where is he now?
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Kragthorpe had three different offensive coordinators and four different defensive playcallers during his tenure. His teams often looked disjointed on the field, repeatedly burning timeouts in confusion early in games or lining up in the wrong formations. Kragthorpe's calls on third and fourth downs prompted a lot of head-scratching.
kragthorpe was forced to keep the dc from bobby p. he finally fired him, and hired ron english, a great hire. ron english took a head coaching job, making him bring in the next guy
just bc something says that he kept bringing in new coaches doesnt mean shite when you dont have a clue as to why they left
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Perhaps the most damning evidence against Kragthorpe is this: He took over offensive coordinator duties this year, and the team averaged 18.5 points per game, worst in the Big East and the fewest by a Louisville team since 2006. Though he came to town with the reputation as a bright offensive mind, his offenses lacked imagination and paled in comparison to his predecessor.
and like i said, this team is pathetic. hell, im not even sure that krag didnt even give a shite anymore after the first couple of games when he knew he was gone. his family was treated like absolute shite, and im sure he couldnt have cared less how it ended up
Posted on 12/6/09 at 8:56 pm to As RXd
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Louisville just doesn't have the pull to bring in guys that can compete with others in the BE. It's a basketball school. Their stadium is named after Papa John
lol, and cincy does? gtfo
how does a stadium named after a local megachain mean the place sucks
PJCS is INFINITELY nicer than tiger stadium
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:14 pm to Ron Mexico
Dp
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:14 pm to Ron Mexico
what ab the part ab his offenses being disorganized, continued formation problems, etc? Basically ur sayin everything bad that happened on his team wasn't his fault. Don't buy it
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Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:21 pm to Books
i said that a lot of the bad shite wasnt anything under his control
now he definitely could have been fine with having thugs, and kept rolling along, but he is apparently a huge christian dude and wanted to do it the "right way"
this was his undoing
now he definitely could have been fine with having thugs, and kept rolling along, but he is apparently a huge christian dude and wanted to do it the "right way"
this was his undoing
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:22 pm to Ron Mexico
whats with the Krag rumors? first i've heard
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:27 pm to Ron Mexico
so basically Petrino had a prison team and Krag just cleaned house causing him to fail miserably coaching his team?
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:30 pm to Books
like i said, one guy robbed a convenience store in his hometown at gunpoint. there were major issues going on with that team
even the best coaches arent going to succeed with absolute dogshit talent
even the best coaches arent going to succeed with absolute dogshit talent
Posted on 12/6/09 at 9:55 pm to Ron Mexico
But they can show improvement...the offense got worse, a lot worse, each and every year. The talent he left at Tulsa got better each year..so the OC after him did better with the same talent he had. He may be getting a bad rap, but there are better candidates out there.
Posted on 12/6/09 at 10:00 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Sounds like Tolbert would be a great hire, but it seems like he could get another NFL job fairly easily. I would assume that WR coaches make quite a bit more in the NFL than in the SEC.
Yes he could. His wife is from La. Many coaches want to be near family once the parents start getting up in age, remember Stacy Searels leaving for UGA to be closer to his family?
I know another coach that passed up the NFL many times to stay in college. I know of one that took a cut in pay from a Pro job, he even had a buyout he had to payoff.
LSU is one of the better paying jobs in the nation. The average Salary of NFL Assistant Coaches, $150K-450K FYI.
Remember Dunbar, Brick and many others got back into college coaching from the NFL. Some rather college.
Every coach has his reasons. Remember Pete Jenkins?
Some coaches I know will tell me all the time, "LSU was one of the better jobs I have ever had."
This post was edited on 12/6/09 at 10:03 pm
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