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Gorsuch: There is no such thing in our constitutional order as a 4th branch of Government!

Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:24 pm
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:24 pm
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Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
9284 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:41 pm to
What does Trump win? Hopefully the ability to fire employees in his own branch, or maybe a kinder word: RIF
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21794 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:41 pm to
In the long run, this SCOTUS decision may end up being as big as anything Trump is able to accomplish in his second term.
Posted by Laugh More
Member since Jan 2022
3375 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:09 pm to
Not doubting you here, but do you mind explaining why, please?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10529 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:09 pm to
He was one of the votes to overturn the Chevron Deference. Apparently he fricking hates the regulatory state, which is awesome.

Weirdly enough, his mom was the one who argued for Chevron Deference back in the day.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
19258 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:11 pm to
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He was one of the votes to overturn the Chevron Deference.


Male logic and reasoning.

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his mom was the one who argued for Chevron Deference


Chic logic and reasoning.

Need anyone say more?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
10529 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:14 pm to
Tip o' the cap, sir.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71524 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:20 pm to
EPIC!
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92426 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:25 pm to
Interesting info. Didn’t know that.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26293 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:26 pm to
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Not doubting you here, but do you mind explaining why, please?


Imagine a President who is not allowed to fire people in his own branch of government
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
72114 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:41 pm to
SFP will be here shortly to explain why Gorsuch is wrong and there really is a 4th branch of government and it has more power than the president.
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
5536 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:45 pm to
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SFP will be here shortly to explain why Gorsuch is wrong and there really is a 4th branch of government and it has more power than the president.


IDGAF
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:53 pm to
I am MAGA through and through, but this and the talk of killing the filibuster worries me.

The United States of America was ordained by God to be governed by conservative men of God. However, this is a wicked world and nearly 50% of the people who can vote support communists.

It scares me to think what a Commie President and Commie congress would do with the power President Trump has managed to acquire.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
9268 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:00 pm to
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He was one of the votes to overturn the Chevron Deference. Apparently he fricking hates the regulatory state, which is awesome. Weirdly enough, his mom was the one who argued for Chevron Deference back in the day


Oh wow! I had not heard that.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
12543 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:19 pm to
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I am MAGA through and through, but this and the talk of killing the filibuster worries me. The United States of America was ordained by God to be governed by conservative men of God. However, this is a wicked world and nearly 50% of the people who can vote support communists. It scares me to think what a Commie President and Commie congress would do with the power President Trump has managed to acquire.


I hear you, but the Democrats will end the filibuster just as soon as they have a majority again. They already tried in the last Congress but Manchin and Sinema blocked it. They are both gone now, and I think only Fetterman would vote against it.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10298 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 12:57 am to
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It scares me to think what a Commie President and Commie congress would do with the power President Trump has managed to acquire.


If the democrats hadn't been able to get the country to where we are now, I would agree with you. The only thing that will save the country is a drastic reversal, and that will not happen with congress.

Either we fight now, or watch as the country continues leftward. We won't have a better chance in the future.
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
24 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:11 am to
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Either we fight now, or watch as the country continues leftward. We won't have a better chance in the future.
malady.

Here is the problem as I see it. Some drastic changes are needed to the way the country operates. The bottom line is that leftists cannot ever even sniff power again. I am not sure the people have the intestinal fortitude for that to happen.

The Constitution was written for a moral and devout people. It is useless to govern a pack of purple haired hyenas. We are getting close to being a post-constitutional society if our culture and faith is going to survive.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:19 am to
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SFP will be here shortly to explain why Gorsuch is wrong and there really is a 4th branch of government and it has more power than the president.


You realize the Unified Executive Theory basically establishes that 4th branch of the bureaucracy right? Overruling this precedent will strip Congress of its legislative power and transfer it to the executive to shape that 4th branch outside of Congressional oversight.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:21 am to
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Either we fight now, or watch as the country continues leftward. We won't have a better chance in the future.


Your fatal presumption is that you can keep them at bay long enough when it's likely the House is lost in only a year.

You're giving future DEMs and their bureaucracy Immensely expanded power
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465805 posts
Posted on 12/9/25 at 7:22 am to
quote:

The bottom line is that leftists cannot ever even sniff power again. I am not sure the people have the intestinal fortitude for that to happen.




How do you stop 50-ish percent of a democracy from regaining power ?
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