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I still don’t get the Israel thing?

Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:24 am
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:24 am
From either side of the debate.

Maybe it’s because I live in a bit of a Midwest/South bubble and have very rarely interacted with many jews in my life

But it seems like to everyone, Israel is the be all end all of politics.

I really don’t have a very solid opinion on that country or jews in general. I pray they would convert and become Christians, but other than that I think they make good bagels, wear funny hats, and tend to be book smart.

Posted by bignuss18
Member since Sep 2025
334 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:29 am to
I think people are tired of them influencing our politicians. People are tired of our foreign policy in general
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10319 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:30 am to
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I think people are tired of them influencing our politicians. People are tired of our foreign policy in general


Which I understand. I don’t understand why they take up so much oxygen and have influence. It’s never explained
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22748 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:30 am to
It's thousands of years of complicated bullshite that is difficult to unravel.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
7153 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:32 am to
Israel uses the US as an ATM and if you disagree you’re labeled “anti-Semitic” as if that’s some kind of insult anyone should care about. They cry out in pain as they strike others.
Posted by Snoopy04
Republic of Texas
Member since Aug 2015
3213 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:32 am to
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I still don’t get the Israel thing?

And that's how the media wants it. It allows them to construct whatever narrative they want for the subjects most people don't understand.

The only thing that caught me off guard with how the narrative shifted was it taking the assassination of Charlie Kirk to all of a sudden put Israel in a pretty bad light and put their political influence on blast.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10454 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:34 am to
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But it seems like to everyone, Israel is the be all end all of politics.


Populism has taken over politics.

Populism demands unreasonable levels of discontent and relies on constant conspiracy theories to generate that discontent.

Israel is a popular villain chosen to be the star of conspiracy theories. I can't tell you why.

There are only around 15 million jews in the whole world. Texas, for example, has twice that number of people in just one state.

There are only about 9.5 million people in Israel (and 20% of those aren't even Jews).

Why someone thought claiming a country that size is capable of bullying the United States and serving as the Illuminati for the whole world is beyond me.

It's like claiming that the 3rd string, 178 lb place kicker on a football team is the hardest hitting player on the team and everyone else is afraid of him.

It's obviously stupid, but most conspiracy theories are.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 8:36 am
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
13748 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:36 am to
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I don’t understand why they take up so much oxygen and have influence. It’s never explained


They are a savvy group... but it's certain evangelicals that seriously prop it up.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10295 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:38 am to
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There are only around 15 million jews in the whole world. Texas, for example, has twice that number of people in just one state.

There are only about 9.5 million people in Israel (and 20% of those aren't even Jews).


The "conspiracy theory" is based on the wealth and power of jews, not their population numbers.
Posted by Schleynole
Member since Sep 2022
1412 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:39 am to
This makes you an antisemite
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:42 am to
Burger, you’re right. It appears you have been in a bubble. Jewish Americans have been prominent in American culture and business for many decades. Israe and Arab conflict has affected the entire world since 1947…
Posted by Arkaea79
Member since Sep 2022
966 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:43 am to
The real reason is because it's the only western civilization in the middle East and is constantly under threat. People only care about Israel getting money because they are mostly hypocritical, where they don't have near the same concern of the US sending money to the numerous other countries and purely focus on there for reasons.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
34893 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:43 am to
Great people but they are not loyal to the US, they are loyal to their people.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67413 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:45 am to
Praying that Jews convert is definitely
a very odd thing to do, bfrom both
a religious and historical perspective…
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1784 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 8:52 am to
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Israel uses the US as an ATM


I don’t think that’s true. They are an ally of ours. The only democracy in the Middle East and a critical asset in an important part of the world.

Those who want to destroy this country attach Isreal in order to weakens our positions in that area. You know guys like China, Russia, Iran.

It’s pretty simple.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62969 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:05 am to
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Israel is a popular villain chosen to be the star of conspiracy theories. I can't tell you why.

Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
24 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:11 am to
Jesus says we should support Isrel, so that's what Im gonna do.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
666 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:19 am to
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Jesus says we should support Isrel, so that's what Im gonna do.


Jesus broke the tribe and here we are. Some followed Jesus and some didn’t.
Posted by BrodyDad
Member since Dec 2025
24 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:24 am to
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Jesus broke the tribe and here we are. Some followed Jesus and some didn’t.


The jews will have the opportunity to be saved, if they dont that is on them. In the meantime, according to prophecy we need Israel for that day to come.
Posted by Coppertop
Member since Feb 2021
687 posts
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:25 am to
The Tribe-Nation of Israel and the State-Country of Israel are two completely different things.

Jesus supported Israel the Tribe-Nation, and in return they got the Romans to crucify Him for it.
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