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Glyphosate paper Monsanto used to defend safety of Roundup no longer valid
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:15 pm to Night Vision
Don’t care, modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:17 pm to SeafoodPlatter
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modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate
They paid off scientific journal reviewers to disregard carcinogenic properties of their product for profit motives.
You can't get more evil than that.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 1:18 pm to SeafoodPlatter
Damn, I’ve used that stuff in my garden; on the advice of a good friend who is well educated and dedicated to his craft. And loves the landscape. Maybe AI will tell the whole truth.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:09 pm to SeafoodPlatter
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Don’t care, modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate
There's a couple farming podcasts you should watch.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:10 pm to SeafoodPlatter
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Don’t care, modern farming wouldn’t be possible without glyphosate
This is either idiocy or ignorance at it's absolute finest.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:12 pm to RCDfan1950
I don't think the issue is so much us spraying our weeds in the driveway. But, I think it's dumped on most of our crops. Some physicians told me this guy is off base, but this scared the crap out of me at one point.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:22 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:I have a commercial license certified in agriculture, forestry and right of way. You can't get that license without an applicable 4 year degree and years of working under another commercial license.
I don't think the issue is so much us spraying our weeds in the driveway.
All that to say, the testing and standards are not trivial.
By far the most egregious perpetrators of using pesticides incorrectly (especially herbicides) which results in everything from plant tolerance to going off label and over applying which results in runoff and overloading of the environment with too much chemical, is the American homeowner.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:32 pm to mudshuvl05
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By far the most egregious perpetrators of using pesticides incorrectly (especially herbicides) which results in everything from plant tolerance to going off label and over applying which results in runoff and overloading of the environment with too much chemical, is the American homeowner.
Uh...I mean sure, using the word "incorrectly" (whatever that means in this context...) can place the blame on a homeowner.
That's if you ignore the fact that US homeowners only account for ~2% of the glyphosate used in the US. The other >97% is used in commercial farming; and that's at a significantly higher concentration that what your neighbor is buying at Home Depot.
The homeowner spraying their driveway is not the problem here.
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I have a commercial license certified in agriculture, forestry and right of way. You can't get that license without an applicable 4 year degree and years of working under another commercial license.
Not sure your point here. I have an active RoW license in a few states as well. I don't have an applicable degree
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:35 pm to Night Vision
Neil Young called this years ago.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:40 pm to Night Vision
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Glyphosate paper Monsanto used to defend safety of Roundup no longer valid
Only thing that kills Cogongrass that I know of.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:49 pm to Cotten
quote:No shite, we can use dicamba, atrazine and 2,4-D and shite baw.
This is either idiocy or ignorance at it's absolute fines
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:54 pm to The Baker
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You can't get more evil than that.
You could try by putting a career chemical company lobbyist in charge of the EPA's chemical division and by introducing a bill that would forbid the EPA from using the only independent research group/department in our government to inform guidelines and issue policy.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 2:57 pm to mudshuvl05
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By far the most egregious perpetrators of using pesticides incorrectly (especially herbicides) which results in everything from plant tolerance to going off label and over applying which results in runoff and overloading of the environment with too much chemical, is the American homeowner.
This is true. American homeowners spray many times more gallons per acre of chemicals than Ag/farmers, and they very often fail to read and understand labels or how the chemicals they apply interact with other different chemicals they may use. It is a big problem.
This post was edited on 12/4/25 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:03 pm to The Baker
And on the other side you potentially have rich trial lawyers (along with their clients/alleged victims, and hippy activist groups, bullying the Journal to bolster their cases by discrediting the paper. A lot of money at stake on both sides.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:09 pm to LegendInMyMind
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This is true. American homeowners spray many times more gallons per acre of chemicals than Ag/farmers, and they very often fail to read and understand labels or how the chemicals they apply interact with other different chemicals they may use. It is a big problem.
This. Also a HUGE issue in the industry I work for, which is pest control related. Non-herbicide. Off-label and illegal usage of product, not in accordance with the labels, by private homeowners and property owners is the bane of our existence right now. Then the problems that has created are exaggerated and jumped on by the PETA and enviro activists who think all chemicals should be eliminated.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:22 pm to mudshuvl05
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By far the most egregious perpetrators of using pesticides incorrectly (especially herbicides) which results in everything from plant tolerance to going off label and over applying which results in runoff and overloading of the environment with too much chemical, is the American homeowner.
This X's 1000
Residential landscaping runoff is huge.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:27 pm to The Baker
I really DGAF. Weeds need to be killed dead. My life is going to be six months shorter than usual after trying 15 different products that don't work as well anyway.
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:29 pm to LemmyLives
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I really DGAF. Weeds need to be killed dead.
You gonna eat the grass after?
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:33 pm to RFK
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Neil Young called this years ago.
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