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Former CIA operations officer Gary Berntsen explains how elections are being stolen.

Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by Sassafrasology
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:03 am
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Lara Logan interviews Former CIA operations officer Gary Berntsen who explains how elections are being stolen in America

He describes there are teams of statisticians, mathematicians, and hackers who map out every county and identify where margins can be quietly adjusted

Different techniques are used in each location so nothing matches in a recount. When a 70-30 county becomes 68-32, nobody notices. But when you add up these differences across an entire state, those tiny amounts of fraud decide outcomes

Both former CIA operations officer Gary Berntsen and author Ralph Pezzullo explain the strategy. They explain they don't flip the big blue cities. Instead they shave votes in the places no one ever audits

“They know where they can find the dead people... Mm-hmm.”

“They plan this, It's meticulous. It's meticulous. These guys are experts at this. It's not just a few guys in a back room. You're talking about hundreds of statisticians and engineers, and they work it, you know, for a year to plan and mathematicians and hackers.”

“We had a map out of Colorado when we were talking to our engineers, the guys that designed it, that stole the elections.

— We just go to every one place where Trump wins 70-30 and — Shaved it off.

We shave in every other place. We don't go near a Democratic place, because when they wanna do recounts, they're gonna go to the Democratic places. They don't realize we shaved in every other committee. We know every other county.

We know how to do this. And then in each of those things where they shave, they shave with a different technique in each one of those. So if you found something in, in one county, there's no continuity around the state that way.

So this is why the Republicans are so much at fault, because they have the power and the ability to show in their areas they can allow access to the machines, they can allow access to the source code”

People need to go to prison. Democrats are stealing elections nationwide in every county, in every state of America




This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:20 am to
This shouldn't surprise anyone.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:28 am to
Didn't watch it, but just in case he didn't have it in there...

The polls being faked the days before an election are part of this.

It lends credibility to the vote shaving in red counties.

FYI- most polls are sponsored by media outlets who then report them.

That's why we've been hearing so much about "internal polling is way off from public polling" with the suggestion that the internal polling is the problem. No, the public polls are being skewed to support this on the front end.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32932 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:29 am to
Disgusting.

Raze the fricking CIA.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15941 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:42 am to
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You're talking about hundreds of statisticians and engineers, and they work it, you know, for a year to plan and mathematicians and hackers.”


This is where I get lost. The idea that there are hundreds of people working behind the scenes in concert with one another is difficult to believe. Especially that not one of these hundreds of people has ever run their mouth or done anything to get caught.
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2853 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:55 am to
Don’t think it’s hundreds of CIA employees. Democrats have consultants that do the number crunching. They didn’t account for Trump in 2016 with a lot of his support was not expressed in the polls before the election. Hillary thought the fix was in.
If Trump doesn’t go scorched earth on the Dems , Rinos and alphabet agencies supporting this, then he and his family are going to suffer big time next time Dems get in office
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:56 am to
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They explain they don't flip the big blue cities. Instead they shave votes in the places no one ever audits


I’ll watch later. But it sounds like he’s talking out of his arse a little.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:59 am to
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The polls being faked the days before an election are part of this.


They have been using fake polls to motivate or de-motivate voters for a very long time. Throw in the cheating and they are able to get exactly what they want.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:01 am to
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I’ll watch later. But it sounds like he’s talking out of his arse a little.


Remembef too, the Republicans won two of the last three presidential elections.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
563 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:09 am to
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This is where I get lost. The idea that there are hundreds of people working behind the scenes in concert with one another is difficult to believe


This part raised my eyebrows too. My first thought was, “are these guys reverse psy-opping us.”


Then what happens? The GOP goes into random red counties and looks for vote shaving and none is found and come out with egg on their faces.
Posted by Red Stick Rambler
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:15 am to
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It's not just a few guys in a back room. You're talking about hundreds of statisticians and engineers, and they work it, you know, for a year to plan and mathematicians and hackers.”


I understand that election fraud is real and it's a problem, but I have a tough time believing that "hundreds" of statisticians and engineers are involved... and not one of them has come forward as a whistle-blower. That would be Manhattan Project level secrecy.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
25009 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:20 am to
Dems do it the old fashioned way in dem cities too. They have a dem sign up as a Republican and then become the "GOP poll watcher" and let the ballot box stuffing begin.

Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:25 am to
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Remembef too, the Republicans won two of the last three presidential elections.

The 2020 election: 15 million votes that appeared then vanished for 2024.
Posted by LongHornHandy
Member since Jul 2024
135 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:27 am to
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This is where I get lost. The idea that there are hundreds of people working behind the scenes in concert with one another is difficult to believe. Especially that not one of these hundreds of people has ever run their mouth or done anything to get caught.


What does getting caught or running their mouth actually look like? Biden announced to the nation they had the biggest team ever assembled to steal the election, did that matter?

Anyone saying this will be brushed off or doesn’t have a platform large enough. You see this “cia officer” saying it right here, know something is certainly going on, but don’t believe it to be true.

How exactly is someone supposed to prove this to you, or anyone else?
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:33 am to
All this and Dems barely squeek out wins.

America is an 85-15 moderate->conservative populace that tolerates things because it's not yet bad enough.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53613 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 11:37 am to
I guess I could have been working for the CIA too back in 2020, probably a lot of others on this forum too because many of us understood the steal of 2020 took place in Dim controlled precincts in key swing states and the margins to flip the GE in favor of Jotato was less than 75K votes.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62810 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:06 pm to
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“They know where they can find the dead people... Mm-hmm.”

Posted by cadillacattack
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:08 pm to

Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16532 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

This is where I get lost. The idea that there are hundreds of people working behind the scenes in concert with one another is difficult to believe. Especially that not one of these hundreds of people has ever run their mouth or done anything to get caught.



Makes me suspicious too. That and the fact that if this were all a Democratic thing, Trump would never have been "allowed" to win (at least not the second time), some house and senate races were close with some ds winning and some rs winning, but if this were true only ds would have won.

Etc.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65122 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 12:30 pm to
Yep, the night after the 2020 election, you had YouTubers that had the real time data showing the voting percentage algorithms switching by the exact percentages favoring Biden, and they would switch at the same rates like every 30 minutes from rural county( mostly Republican counties-which I thought was weird) . Those episodes were all deleted after a few days, so this lines up with what this guy is saying
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