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California's largest legal cannabis market is facing widespread collapse

Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:25 am
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:25 am
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The legal cannabis market in Los Angeles is hitting a breaking point. At least two-thirds of LA weed businesses have failed to pay their local taxes, and the city is currently out hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue.

The dire financial status of the city’s cannabis stores — with more than 500 out of LA’s 738 pot companies owing outstanding taxes — has forced the city to take the extreme step of proposing an amnesty program to bail out the industry, according to a city letter obtained by SFGATE.

The LA Office of Finance is recommending that the city waive all tax penalties for cannabis companies in exchange for the businesses repaying their tax debts under payment plans, according to an Oct. 2 letter signed by Diana Mangioglu, the city’s treasurer, and sent to the LA City Council. Mangioglu said the program was necessary because of the “extremely challenging” business environment.
“Due to widespread non-compliance with tax and permit regulations feeding a thriving black market, combined with a tax burden which vastly exceeds the rates paid by other industries, legally permitted cannabis businesses face a daunting task,” Magioglu wrote in the letter.



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The city’s cannabis companies currently owe the city $400 million in outstanding taxes, with 48 businesses individually owing more than $2 million. The city has previously run tax amnesty programs for businesses citywide, but this would be the first time a program is offered to a specific industry, according to the letter.


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The office estimates that even if the amnesty program is offered, it will only help to recoup $30 million in tax revenue, meaning $370 million is likely already lost. The letter estimates that $150 million of the $400 million in owed taxes is connected to companies that are already out of business, or tied to tax bills that are too old to collect.

The hundreds of millions of dollars in missing tax revenue are sorely needed. LA has been navigating a $1 billion budget shortfall for this fiscal year, although Mayor Karen Bass worked out a deal this summer that her office said closed that budget gap.


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The overall tax rate for cannabis in LA exceeds 40% and includes a 10% local tax, one of the highest local taxes in the state. LA’s regulatory framework forced some business owners to spend over a million dollars on permitting and rent before they could open for business.


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Statewide, total cannabis sales are falling, as operators owe $1.3 billion in back taxes to the state, according to a 2024 state report.


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At the outset of cannabis legalization, LA prioritized giving licenses to people harmed by the war on drugs, including low-income residents and people of color — meaning that a large portion of tax-owing businesses come from these same marginalized groups. Today, many of these “social equity” license holders are now holding millions of dollars in debt and may not even have a functioning business to show for it.



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Posted by Deep Purple Haze
LA
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:27 am to
frick cali
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66814 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:30 am to
Geez, let me give something to the perennial lawbreakers and not act surprised that they continue breaking the law by, of all things, not paying taxes.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:30 am to
Posted by liquid rabbit
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:32 am to
Name something California hasn't fricked up.

I'll wait.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:32 am to
Across the industry, apparently. "Tax and regulate" works out about as well as we figured it would.
Posted by fareplay
Member since Nov 2012
6226 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:34 am to
The TL;DR is that economic policy suggests you should do what your country/state etc does best. Ca is too high cost and too govt to have a weed business. Leave it to the guys at the south of the border.
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:39 am to
Shocking.

1. Regulations make it more expensive to grow.
2. Taxes
3. Street cannabis is cheaper.

Industry collapses.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2992 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:39 am to
Exactly! Potheads gonna pothead.
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12412 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:42 am to
Weed has gone to pot
Posted by LSUtoBOOT
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:46 am to
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Name something California hasn't fricked up. I'll wait.

And that greaseball governor wants to be president.
Posted by idlewatcher
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:47 am to
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Name something California hasn't fricked up.



Their coastline and that is it.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
11897 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:47 am to
Nothing about this is shocking.

I definitely giggled at "social equity license".
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:47 am to
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Name something California hasn't fricked up

Posted by bengalman
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:51 am to
Posted by ChatGPT of LA
Member since Mar 2023
3938 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 11:59 am to
By all means, we should elect the governor as POTUS!

What could go wrong
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14740 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:00 pm to
This is what happens when your prioritize authorizing businesses to people who can run their own personal lives much less a business.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:02 pm to
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LA prioritized giving licenses to people harmed by the war on drugs, including low-income residents and people of color — meaning that a large portion of tax-owing businesses come from these same marginalized groups

Meaning Cali will never collect the money.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
15908 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:05 pm to
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The legal cannabis market in Los Angeles is hitting a breaking point. At least two-thirds of LA weed businesses have failed to pay their local taxes, and the city is currently out hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue.


A bunch of weed fanatics with zero business, bookkeeping, regulatory, and tax experience that just threw up a storefront to sell their favorite products are behind on their obligations? Will the stunning news ever cease?

You can bet they are probably further behind in state and federal taxes if they have even bothered to file required returns at all.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9292 posts
Posted on 11/10/25 at 12:09 pm to
I was trying to figure out how a sales tax collected at point of sale cannot be paid, but it looks like California complicated things especially with recent increase. They are taxing gross and also taxing the local business taxes with excise tax and then local and/or state sales tax is taxing the excise taxes and business taxes along with other costs involved.

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The new tax that went into effect on Tuesday is based on the gross receipts from the retail sale of cannabis, officials say, which generally include:

The selling price of the product

Any expense imposed on retailers that get passed on to customers, such as a local cannabis tax

Certain transportation fees during cannabis deliveries where personal vehicles are used

Any other charges for services during a sale, such as a fee for using a debit card

The amount charged for any item that is required for purchase with a cannabis product, including packaging, cartridges and vaping devices


State officials included an example on how the excise tax is calculated with a $35 delivery product:

Selling price of cannabis product: $35
Local 10% cannabis business tax: $3.50
Delivery fee: $5.00
Service fee: $3.00
Total subject to excise tax: $46.50
New 19% cannabis excise tax: $8.84
Total subject to sales tax: $55.34

The 15% excise tax would have added $6.98 as opposed to the $8.84 under the new tax rate.

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/new-cannabis-tax-increase-is-a-high-concern-for-california-dispensaries-customers/
This post was edited on 11/10/25 at 12:11 pm
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