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Is the mass new home construction industry good for our country?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:49 am
Sure it is good for the people making making money, but consider this:
- The environmental impact of wiping out natural areas for acres and acres of generic vinyl boxes (Never mind the hundreds of small animals killed you can pick from 1 of 3 floor plans!)
- The further homogenization of the US because of those acres of vinyl boxes (which of these 3 floor plans do you want?)
- Demand for cheap illegal labor, offering incentives for illegals to come here (Could the industry even survive without illegal labor?)
- An often times shoddy product with shite quality that won’t last (Feel that trampolining on the 2nd story? Your kids can exercise!)
- Ease of jumping out of areas that could be re-developed and improved, contributing to the big city slums and decline that we all bemoan
- Convincing people that paying for something they can never own is somehow a great investment
But, yeah, money.
- The environmental impact of wiping out natural areas for acres and acres of generic vinyl boxes (Never mind the hundreds of small animals killed you can pick from 1 of 3 floor plans!)
- The further homogenization of the US because of those acres of vinyl boxes (which of these 3 floor plans do you want?)
- Demand for cheap illegal labor, offering incentives for illegals to come here (Could the industry even survive without illegal labor?)
- An often times shoddy product with shite quality that won’t last (Feel that trampolining on the 2nd story? Your kids can exercise!)
- Ease of jumping out of areas that could be re-developed and improved, contributing to the big city slums and decline that we all bemoan
- Convincing people that paying for something they can never own is somehow a great investment
But, yeah, money.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 9:53 am
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Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:51 am to weagle1999
Land use is good. Creates more jobs.
Density creates scarcity which crushes affordability
Density creates scarcity which crushes affordability
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:53 am to weagle1999
I'm with you on the quality and choice options thing and actually prefer older homes
That said, increasing housing inventory can alleviate the home affordability issues that we're seeing across the country
That said, increasing housing inventory can alleviate the home affordability issues that we're seeing across the country
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:53 am to weagle1999
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Demand for cheap illegal labor, offering incentives for illegals to come here (Could the industry even survive without illegal labor?)
If you think homes are expensive now, wait until they have to pay Americans to build them. They'll go broke or not get built.
And it ain't just housing. Which is what makes the MAGA platform so asinine. Alright, you don't want illegals doing the job? Then you do it. Or pay someone else enough that they will.
The whole thing is just absolute short sighted nonsense
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:59 am to Powerman
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That said, increasing housing inventory can alleviate the home affordability issues that we're seeing across the country
This.
My family is looking to buy a home... they simply can't afford the $350k price tag that comes with a 1,400sqft single home. So, they are in the market for a mass produced townhome for more square footage and a smaller price tag
If mass produced cookie cutters weren't available, they'd be in their 3rd floor walkup apartment of 700 sqft for the next five years or so.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:59 am to Powerman
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home affordability issues
Why is it imperative that everyone be able to afford a house?
I feel like many of these ideas are me being played by industry marketing.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:02 am to Reflex
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If you think homes are expensive now, wait until they have to pay Americans to build them. They'll go broke or not get built.
I think you are already paying it, asinine local taxes to school those illegals.
Health care costs exploding to keep them healthy.
A ruined social safety net.
Car insurance through the roof.
Yeah I think we are already paying for those illegals....ya didnt think about that now did ya
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:04 am to weagle1999
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- The further homogenization of the US
You act like this is bad.
time to build the frick out of housing. Screw those that only worry about property values.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:04 am to trinidadtiger
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Health care costs exploding to keep them healthy.
Your assumptions are leading you astray.
It ain't Mexicans and Guatemalans fricking up healthcare. It's fat arse boomers and their descendants that are destroying that industry. They outnumber the Hispanics in the ED 20-1 or more.
You didn't think about that now, did you?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:05 am to Reflex
God you are an idiot. i’m in construction and not once have i heard labor is an issue. and there are plenty of people south of the border working. being where i do business, they have to be vetted, so there are plenty legal immigrants to do work like that. it’s akin to the climate change hoax.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:05 am to weagle1999
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Why is it imperative that everyone be able to afford a house?
Why do you think youre entitled to constantly rising home values?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:05 am to weagle1999
You make dumb threads based on “conventional wisdom” that is usually neither.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:07 am to weagle1999
quote:gee I don’t know
Why is it imperative that everyone be able to afford a house?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:08 am to weagle1999
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Why is it imperative that everyone be able to afford a house?
Because a family of four doesn't want to live in a 700sqft 3rd floor walkup forever.
Some people genuinely like renting or apartments... others want and need more space for building a family, having pets, equity, etc...
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:09 am to back9Tiger
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i’m in construction
Maybe so. I don't really believe you though and here's why:
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Yes, absolutely. Construction is getting hammered harder than almost any other sector.
The numbers:
Construction employs 2.2 million immigrant workers - more than restaurants (1.1M), janitorial services (526K), and landscaping (454K) combined. About a quarter of all immigrants without college degrees work in construction. (Stateline) (Missouri Independent)
States with the highest concentration of undocumented construction workers saw a 0.1% drop in construction employment while other states saw a 1.9% increase - a dramatic divergence. (American Immigration Council)
Construction has shed 10,000 jobs since May as a direct result of enforcement actions. (OPB)
What's happening on the ground:
ICE is conducting raids at construction sites and Home Depot parking lots (where contractors hire day laborers). (CNN) Workers are afraid to show up to job sites, and labor activists are hearing "definite hesitation" from workers about reporting to work. (Context)
The economic paradox:
The construction industry already had worker shortages causing billions in economic damage even before the raids started. (Stateline) The industry needs to add 439,000 workers this year and 500,000 next year just to keep up with demand. (Axios)
So Trump's deporting workers from an industry that already can't find enough people and is critical to his own housing agenda. The irony is thick.
Bottom line: This is creating real labor constraints that will show up in delayed projects and higher costs. Basically the opposite of what you'd want if you're trying to fix housing affordability or keep construction inflation in check.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Why do you think youre entitled to constantly rising home values?
I don’t think that I am.
I don’t really think of my house as a financial investment.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:20 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:16 am to the808bass
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the808bass
And the insults start
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:20 am to weagle1999
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Is the mass new home construction industry good for our country?
There is a housing shortage which is causing home prices to increase. More homes built = more housing supply.
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The environmental impact of wiping out natural areas for acres and acres of generic vinyl boxes (Never mind the hundreds of small animals killed you can pick from 1 of 3 floor plans!)
- The further homogenization of the US because of those acres of vinyl boxes (which of these 3 floor plans do you want?)
Would you prefer if we built like Europe does and build microdistricts so that we can crame everyone into one and two bedrooms apartment buildings instead of suburbs?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:20 am to weagle1999
How much good will it due to have mass construction if/when a bunch of existing inventory hits the market?
There’s a large backlog of foreclosures as well as aging Baby Boomers who are going into nursing homes or dying, making those houses potentially available.
Mass construction can be a good thing if the housing is actually needed, but at a point too much housing becomes a big problem. Especially if you have apartment buildings which turn Section 8 in order to keep tenants.
There’s a large backlog of foreclosures as well as aging Baby Boomers who are going into nursing homes or dying, making those houses potentially available.
Mass construction can be a good thing if the housing is actually needed, but at a point too much housing becomes a big problem. Especially if you have apartment buildings which turn Section 8 in order to keep tenants.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:25 am to WeeWee
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Would you prefer if we built like Europe does and build microdistricts so that we can crame everyone into one and two bedrooms apartment buildings instead of suburbs?
I don’t know. But are identical free standing homes on 1/4 acre lots in a neighborhood with 1000 homes really all that different?
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