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Rand Paul wants you to be 70 before you can draw Social Security

Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:20 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:20 am





The life expectancy for an American today is 78.4 years. So he wants Americans to enjoy only 8 years of peace (if you’re lucky) before you die.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:23 am to
Based on the original policy of SS, it should be about 80

Per Gemini:

quote:

When Social Security began, the full retirement age was 65, while the average life expectancy was significantly lower—around 61 for men and 65 for women in 1935. This meant the retirement age was close to or even above the average life expectancy, particularly for men, with a large percentage of the population likely unable to receive benefits.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 7:24 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178858 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:24 am to
Yes it's always been a scam

Time to phase it out
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
11877 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:26 am to
I'm with SFP on this one.
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31725 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:27 am to
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Time to phase it out


If they do, those assholes better give me back every dime I put into it with interest.... I'm 61, put into it since I was 14.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 7:30 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38776 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:29 am to
People can be as mad as they want about this but something has to be done to it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463637 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:29 am to
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those assholes better give me all my money I put into it with interest....

That's not how welfare programs work
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
31725 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:32 am to
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That's not how welfare programs work


It's my money, I worked for it... Welfare recipients get other people's money.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11249 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:33 am to
If you raise the Social Security age to 70, will Medicare ages go up as well?

Medicare is the other social welfare money pit that doesn’t collect enough taxes to cover its future obligations and promises. Thanks to exponentially rising healthcare costs and big medical.

I have a few other ideas that we can fold into the Rand Paul, “No Retirement for You Bill”

Let’s also raise IRA penalty distribution ages and Required Minimum Distribution ages too.

Also, work in a federal law to eliminate “years worked” defined retirement benefit plans in government to plans that only payout after age 65 or another reasonable expectation of retirement age.

For example a teacher, police officer, or federal worker could not just make 20 years into a retirement system and expect 40-50 years of payments retiring at the ripe old age of 40 if they started at 20.

Another, thing would be increasing quarter sizes and lengthening the eligibility requirements for Social Security and disability benefits. That way Jose doesn’t just drop in at age 55 and become eligible for Social Security at 65.
This post was edited on 11/1/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by Gifman
Member since Jan 2021
16801 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:33 am to
I would take 50 percent of what I've put in to get out of the program completely so I can actually invest that money.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
83548 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:35 am to
I dont disagree... At some point the system needs to be fixed.

Those within 10yrs - No Change
10-20yrs away - changes to 68
20+ years away - changes to 70
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4511 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:35 am to
Clean the entire SS system up which entails many avenues. Then run the numbers
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
178858 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:35 am to
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That is the other social welfare money pit that doesn’t collect enough taxes to cover its future obligations and promises



Boomers have mostly stopped or are stopping paying into both systems due to retirement and will now draw both down. It's a real dilemma considering the size of the boomer generation.

There will be nothing left by the time the last boomer dies, which is why Rand is trying to raise the age.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31482 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Based on the original policy of SS, it should be about 80

100% correct

raising the age must happen for solvency

problem is; older people vote in greater numbers & whoever actually does this will get crushed on election day

but it has to happen
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
16561 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:36 am to
Then those who serve in either Congress or the Senate can not draw government retirement until 70.

I believe it is very important the American people establish term limits in this country. It is extremely important the election of the US Senator from each state be elected by that respective states' House of Representatives.

Abolish the 17th Amendment.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
70153 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:37 am to
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If they do, those assholes better give me back every dime I put into it with interest.... I'm 61, put into it since I was 14.


That money is long gone.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94556 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:38 am to
Well, no, he wants the FRA to become 70.

And I have news - something has to change. Either benefits will be reduced, the FRA will increase, taxes will increase (probably all three to some degree) something is going to be implemented to restore solvency "as if by magic".

They will likely phase it in (like the increase from 65 to 67) and it will likely be just fine. You can still "draw" early (like many folks do) at 62, but it will be at a reduced amount.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
12415 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:40 am to
50% tax on foreign remittances, with the money going towards SS. Will help solve a couple of problems.
Posted by CC
Galveztown
Member since Feb 2004
15126 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:41 am to
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It's my money, I worked for it..
Yes you worked for it but it was your money. Then the government stole it and spent it on other stuff.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16856 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 7:42 am to
Says the politician who doesn’t pay into SS since he has his own retirement pension paid by taxpayers who he wants not to collect to long of a period after paying into 45 years currently and 50 if it was up to him. Of course. This after he is guaranteed a salary if he quits tomorrow. Not that majority of people would have actually used the money taken and invested themselves to get greater returns the money the government took was spent long ago with some IOU’s given. Those IOU’s are now being paid with borrowed money that interest is paid on by those taxpayers whose checks are being siphoned off to SS. This is but a Democrat scam to rob the country that RINO’s are behind as well now obviously
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