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B-17 flyover during 1943 World Series

Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 1:33 pm
FB
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 3:07 pm to
Not sure about all the downvotes unless it is for a FB link. The story is interesting, and thanks for posting.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:15 pm to
Just 21 years old, we take for granted how young these men were.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 4:34 pm to
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ust 21 years old, we take for granted how young these men were.


It really is and then read accounts of 21 and 22 year olds with a year or so of flight experience bringing back heavy bombers shot all to hell and executing landings and then a few days later flying another mission.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:05 pm to
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really is and then read accounts of 21 and 22 year olds with a year or so of flight experience bringing back heavy bombers shot all to hell and executing landings and then a few days later flying another mission.


Or 14, 15, and 16 yr olds lying at the recruitment office then going to combat.

Crazy time
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:07 pm to
Just two decades later the planes were so complex that you couldn't take a kid off the street and have him flying six months later. It was a career, and the pilots were in their late twenties to late forties. Many of the combat pilots in Vietnam were the same 21 year old who had flown in WWII.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 5:08 pm to
Now we’d have 18, 19, 20 year olds lying to avoid serving.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1448 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 6:07 pm to
Flying these bombers was a pretty physical task. This is a letter a B-24 pilot wrote to his mother describing his training . It's from the 15th Air Force FB page.
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My father, Lieutenant Bill Hanchett, transitioned to B-24s in September 1944 after serving as an instructor-pilot teaching cadets to fly the BT-13A Valiant at Bainbridge Field, Georgia. Before learning to fly the B-24D at Maxwell Field, Bill went through a five-week engineering course, “studying everything about the B-24,” logging many hours in a Liberator, as an engineer. He wrote: “The whole idea is to get us familiar with the mechanics of the plane and its flight characteristics before they put us in the left-hand seat.” My father’s correspondence chronicling his experiences as a pilot are in my new book, Disgracefully Easy: A B-24 Pilot’s Letters Home, by William Hanchett with Thomas F. Hanchett, (Acorn 2025).
Here is an excerpt from a letter written to his mother in October 1944: “...It seems the pilot of a B-24 has to be more than a pilot; he has to be an aeronautical engineer...The Liberator certainly does not fly like an airplane. It is a big, heavy unwieldly TRUCK. The difference between it and an airplane is the difference between a convertible Ford coupe and a moving van...I have a lot of respect for the B-24 and the damage it can do...”
A B-29 Superfortress school had recently been established at Maxwell and Bill thought that he might eventually transition to B-29s. In early October 1944 he toured a B-29 at Maxwell and was very impressed by its size. Many years later he would describe to me crawling through the 40-foot-long tunnel that connected the forward crew spaces (cockpit area) with the rear of the plane. He never transitioned to B-29s though instructors he knew at Bainbridge made the move.
After about a month at Maxwell Field, Bill transferred to the intense B-24 pilot training school at Courtland Field in northern Alabama. He wrote: “...Shot 13 landings in the B-24 this morning. You’d be surprised at the amount of physical work involved. You feel as though you are holding all 36,000 lbs. of the plane in your left hand.” Also, “...As I told you, the pilot’s cockpit is very bewildering until you know something about it. The instruments extend the full width of the plane, three radios are on the ceiling, and a column containing throttles, superchargers, mixture controls, light, prop, cowl flap, and many other toggle switches is between the pilot and co-pilot...” and “...A bomber is not like a single-engine ship, where the pilot can do all the work. It takes two men to start these engines, and while it would be possible for one man to fly the plane, it would not be safe and is never done, except in emergencies...”
In December he was able to say, “...By the way, [I] have been officially checked out in the B-24! T’was almost as big a thrill as my first solo...”
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Now we’d have 18, 19, 20 year olds lying to avoid serving.


I don’t know about these days but when we had the draft and Vietnam going on I sure as hell didn’t want to go for that senseless shite. Luckily the war ended right before I graduated high school and I didn’t have to make that choice. I didn’t know there was a problem now.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:23 pm to
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I don’t know about these days but when we had the draft and Vietnam going on I sure as hell didn’t want to go for that senseless shite. Luckily the war ended right before I graduated high school and I didn’t have to make that choice. I didn’t know there was a problem now.



I was born well after Vietnam, but you can go back and look at the draft lottery and see where you would have fallen in the order. With my SSN, I would have been guaranteed to have been drafted in the first lottery.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
3980 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:25 pm to
Crazy think how we sacrificed all this just to suck off facists in 2025
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
3119 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 9:36 am to
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Now we’d have 18, 19, 20 year olds lying to avoid serving.


Like the one in your avatar? Old Bone Spurs himself.
Posted by EphesianArmor
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Posted on 11/1/25 at 9:44 am to
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
1827 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 6:11 pm to
The lottery was based on your birthday
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/1/25 at 6:22 pm to
That is pretty cool.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7665 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 6:38 pm to
Two of mom’s (no pics you sickos) cousins were B-17 pilots in WWII. Thery were two of the best men I ever met. Coincidentally, they were called back in to fly B-29s during Korea.
Posted by hansenthered1
Dixie
Member since Nov 2023
2280 posts
Posted on 11/1/25 at 6:44 pm to
There is no draft dumbass. Most of the military is made up of those under 25 with majority under 21. It's always been this way.

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