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Do newer vehicles have better features that are worth paying for?
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:07 am
Are there improved or new features routinely found on newer (2024-2026) model vehicles that slightly older (2019-2023) vehicles do not typically have?
I imagine a lot has gone into connectivity and touchscreen advances.
I don't think there has been any major drivetrain improvements. Or interior improvements like seating or remote starting.
Just trying to justify buying a newer vehicle and paying that extra $$.
Inb4 "the feature of a higher MSRP".
I imagine a lot has gone into connectivity and touchscreen advances.
I don't think there has been any major drivetrain improvements. Or interior improvements like seating or remote starting.
Just trying to justify buying a newer vehicle and paying that extra $$.
Inb4 "the feature of a higher MSRP".
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:09 am to East Coast Band
The safety sensors, cameras and safety features are a huge bonus for parents and families. I mean for everyone really.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:09 am to East Coast Band
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Do newer vehicles have better features that are worth paying for?
I upgraded trim specifically for vented/ heated seats so yes.
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The safety sensors, cameras and safety features are a huge bonus for parents and families
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:11 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:10 am to fr33manator
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The safety sensors, cameras and safety features are a huge bonus for parents and families. I mean for everyone really.
carplay as well.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:11 am to East Coast Band
I would pay a lot of money to not have any of that stuff installed on my next truck. I don't need 99% of it but it's mandatory thanks to the feds. I wish I could snap my fingers and recreate my fathers 92 F150, that thing was awesome and reliable. Trucks suck now.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:17 am to East Coast Band
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I don't think there has been any major drivetrain improvements.
Well, do you consider transmissions part of the drive train?
And what are your thoughts about variable timing?
Lots of preposterous changes to eke out another fraction of a point of MPG to meet CAFE standards. Some is simply to make components lighter (less robust) to reduce weight, I guess.
I’m not a fan of the Ecoboost engines. Or many turbos coming out.
But my worry is longevity and being able to work on them 15 years after production, without having to buy expensive computer diagnostics.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:24 am to Jimbeaux
I don't trust transnissions with more than 5or 6 gears.
Sums to be too many issues with new trans.
I know multiple people with new toyotas and GMs that went down already. My ford also needed a transmission at 28 000 miles.
It's crazy.
Sums to be too many issues with new trans.
I know multiple people with new toyotas and GMs that went down already. My ford also needed a transmission at 28 000 miles.
It's crazy.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:25 am to East Coast Band
That’s a question where the answer solely relies on the person you’re asking and what they’re looking for in a vehicle.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:27 am to Napoleon
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I don't trust transnissions with more than 5or 6 gears. Sums to be too many issues with new trans. I know multiple people with new toyotas and GMs that went down already. My ford also needed a transmission at 28 000 miles. It's crazy.
I’ll say this, when Foed and GM first put the 10 speeds in there were a lot of problems. My 2021 F150 downshifted hard from 3rd to 1st when braking.
I now have a 2025 Silverado with the 10 speed and it is a lot better than my 21.
ETA I knew others personally who had to get some transmissions replaced before 40k miles in their 21 Silverados.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:29 am to Horsemeat
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I would pay a lot of money to not have any of that stuff installed on my next truck. I don't need 99% of it but it's mandatory thanks to the feds. I wish I could snap my fingers and recreate my fathers 92 F150, that thing was awesome and reliable. Trucks suck now.
When I turned 16 in the 80's, my aunt gave me her daily driver 1974 Chevelle. Puke blue color. Of course I got a job and "upgraded" it, but that was not only the most reliable easiest to work on. Ever. Now, my 2008 Tacoma is also pretty damn easy.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:31 am to East Coast Band
No, find a used ‘work truck’. They’re typically bare bones but have everything you need.
Bought one with 68,000 miles in 2016 and still driving the ol’ Tundra today at 240,000k. $17k out the door.
Also always pay cash for a vehicle. All those ‘features’ make less sense if they’re not $10/month extra. Also paying cash allows you to save on insurance only carrying minimum liability if you don’t drive like an a-hole
People like, I got 0% interest on something I didn’t want and paid $10k-$20k too much. Now I have to carry full coverage insurance knowing I’ll never use it think I’m an idiot. There you go.
Bought one with 68,000 miles in 2016 and still driving the ol’ Tundra today at 240,000k. $17k out the door.
Also always pay cash for a vehicle. All those ‘features’ make less sense if they’re not $10/month extra. Also paying cash allows you to save on insurance only carrying minimum liability if you don’t drive like an a-hole
People like, I got 0% interest on something I didn’t want and paid $10k-$20k too much. Now I have to carry full coverage insurance knowing I’ll never use it think I’m an idiot. There you go.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:31 am to East Coast Band
I recently upgraded from a Gen1 Tundra to a Gen2.5 Tundra not so much for features but because I wanted a bigger truck with more room in the backseat. Drivetrain and overall dependability was a wash, so that wasn't a factor.
But having said that, while I knew I wanted a backup camera when I updated I didn't realize just how much I would like the parking sensors for tight spaces not just in parking lots but off-road as well. That will be a "must have" feature for us when my wife moves from her current Gen4 4Runner to a newer truck though it won't be a 4Runner since they no longer offer it in a V8, so most likely a Lexus or Sequoia (up to 2022 model).
But having said that, while I knew I wanted a backup camera when I updated I didn't realize just how much I would like the parking sensors for tight spaces not just in parking lots but off-road as well. That will be a "must have" feature for us when my wife moves from her current Gen4 4Runner to a newer truck though it won't be a 4Runner since they no longer offer it in a V8, so most likely a Lexus or Sequoia (up to 2022 model).
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:35 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:39 am to East Coast Band
i'll be real; the only 'feature' that has remotely piqued my interest in the last 20 years is the integration of android/apple play.
i have bought so many cars with SHITTY tech systems (looking at you, toyota) so any new vehicle i purchase that will be a deal breaker.
I WANT MY PHONE TO DiSAPPEAR WHEN I'M IN THE CAR
plexamp, waze, familiar phone ux in my car without stciking my phone over a vent or doodad using a cupholder?
SIGN ME UP
eta toyota can bring me a FANTASTIC feature like crawl control in my 4runner but they cant make a touchscreen system that doesnt look like something Gor, the Caveman tried to make.
i have bought so many cars with SHITTY tech systems (looking at you, toyota) so any new vehicle i purchase that will be a deal breaker.
I WANT MY PHONE TO DiSAPPEAR WHEN I'M IN THE CAR
plexamp, waze, familiar phone ux in my car without stciking my phone over a vent or doodad using a cupholder?
SIGN ME UP
eta toyota can bring me a FANTASTIC feature like crawl control in my 4runner but they cant make a touchscreen system that doesnt look like something Gor, the Caveman tried to make.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:42 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:41 am to fr33manator
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The safety sensors, cameras and safety features are a huge bonus for parents and families. I mean for everyone really.
We drove a rented 2025 Nissan Rouge last week and as someone that drives a 06 Frontier all of those features took a minute to get use to, the thing nearly drives itself. I was pleasantly surprised with it.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
quote:My dad gave me his pickup in 2000 because it was a gas guzzler, he was going to trade it in for a Ranger but I gave him a couple grand for it. Truly was a gas guzzler - but when we turned it in around 2003 it had 365,000 miles on it and never had a major breakdown, but when you went to fill up both tanks you'd be spending near $70 after 9/11. I can't imagine owning it now because I've been spoiled by my tiny car that gets 40mpg and costs $20 to fill.
When I turned 16 in the 80's, my aunt gave me her daily driver 1974 Chevelle. Puke blue color. Of course I got a job and "upgraded" it, but that was not only the most reliable easiest to work on. Ever. Now, my 2008 Tacoma is also pretty damn easy.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:46 am to East Coast Band
Only thing that hasn't been mentioned is the progression of cruise control features - went to standard cruise control to adaptive control to lane keep assistance and turning to now many of the newer vehicles have hands free driving etc.
Certainly more and more development into full self driving will be within a decade.
Certainly more and more development into full self driving will be within a decade.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:46 am to CAD703X
quote:If/when Toyota puts the v6 back in their Tacomas I very likely will trade in for one now that I'm out of debt completely. I'm not buying a turbocharged 4 cyl.
(looking at you, toyota
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:48 am to fr33manator
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safety sensors, cameras and safety features
Almost all of which have been in every vehicle I've owned since 2012.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:52 am to Puffoluffagus
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Only thing that hasn't been mentioned is the progression of cruise control features - went to standard cruise control to adaptive control to lane keep assistance and turning to now many of the newer vehicles have hands free driving etc.
I'm probably in the minority here but I absolutely hate this feature. I've had it in numerous rental cars and intensely dislike it. I know it can be disabled though but I wouldn't personally buy a vehicle specifically for this feature.
To be fair, I rarely use standard cruise control even for road trips, I don't want to be too dis-engaged from the driving experience but that's just me. About the only time I used it is in places like West Texas, Kansas, etc.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 11:58 am
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