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I didn’t realize the insane coaching contracts started at LSU.

Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:37 am
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:37 am
Hanagriff said last night that the first one sided coaches contract was the one Sexton negotiated with LSU for Saban. Since then, all the other coaches contracts have been modeled off of that one giving coaches all the power.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:39 am to
Is that where buyouts originated? That trend needs to die. I don’t know how colleges could be stupid enough to agree to pay out tens of millions of dollars to guys they’re firing. There’s no way that yields a positive return for the school in the long run
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:39 am to
Saban was worth every penny. His foundation carried over in to the Miles era as well so that was money well spent. What is being spent now is just insane and the numbers now were started with Woodward, Jimbo and aTm.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:40 am to
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all the other coaches contracts have been modeled off of that one giving coaches all the power.


Well, when Sexton represents most of the college football head coaches, what do you expect?
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:43 am to
Buyouts are the worst thing to happen to these coaching contracts. Rewarding failure is idiotic.
Posted by bstew3006
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:44 am to
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that where buyouts originated? That trend needs to die


NIL will kill buyouts.

You can’t have monster buyouts and maxed NIL collectives.

You’ll see higher pay per year with little buyout.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:46 am to
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Saban was worth every penny.


I agree. I was just pointing out that this is where the insanity started. I didn’t know that. It’s ironic at this point in time.
Posted by DVinBR
Member since Jan 2013
15144 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:49 am to
Guaranteed money negotiations should only come in when a coach shows success and gets an extension
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 8:50 am
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
616 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:49 am to
This shite show is all on Woodward. He did the same thing to Texas A&M. They have the money to recover from that crap. LSU doesn't!
Posted by Mariner
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:56 am to
I remember when Saban was hired for $1.2 million, everyone I know thought that was absolutely nuts and no coach is worth that, and even I was scratching my head. He proved why he was worth $1.2 million and more.

All of those facilities you see on campus and the need/execution of building all those facilities started with Saban. Remember the concept idea of "Sabanville?" It sounded unfeasible. Now a recruit won't consider any schools that do not have one.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62054 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:02 am to
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I didn’t realize the insane coaching contracts started at LSU.


I don’t think that they did, although it depends on what you mean by “insane”.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:03 am to
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Is that where buyouts originated?

"Buyouts" is largely a misunderstood term, and actual buyouts are good thing in the big picture.

The issue you're having with these contracts is being guaranteed contracts. A fully-guaranteed contract means the "buyout" is the remainder of the contract.

And actual buyout is a % (smaller than 100) of that guaranteed portion.

And the guaranteed contracts have been around a long time. Then came the 5-year mandatory length/extension, b/c if you didn't have that, schools would negatively recruit against you. Then came the super-long contracts with Jimb's deal at TAMU.
Posted by DustyDinkleman
Here
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:03 am to
Here’s a novel idea…

Don’t handcuff your program to a coach for a decade without a proven playoff record.

Woodward effed us. Hard.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87591 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:05 am to
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Rewarding failure is idiotic.


I’ve been saying that for years and all the geniuses on here tell me I just don’t understand how all of this works
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62054 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:08 am to
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I’ve been saying that for years and all the geniuses on here tell me I just don’t understand how all of this works


So tell us how it works.
Posted by jasonbr1975
Member since Sep 2024
841 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:16 am to
There needs to be a reformat of these coaching contracts. They should have a modest annual guarantee. Let's say $500,000.00 (which is well enough to live super comfortable). Everything after that should be performance based only on regular season wins. The performance based wins should be higher for conference vs. non-conference. No win - no pay. Throw in some bonuses like conference champion, playoff by round, NC game, then Natty winner. All the performance based items don't get paid until after they happen or at the end of the regular season then post season. If you quit or get fired, you only get the rest of your guarantee and any performance based metrics.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 9:24 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87591 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:59 am to
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So tell us how it works.



compensation linked to performance for starters, and if you’re not performing to my likes, adios, with a reasonable severance package, is that too complicated?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
463726 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:01 am to
It's not complicated, but you would never get the top coaching talent for the long-term with that strategy and you'd never have a top program as a result.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12138 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:03 am to
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Is that where buyouts originated? That trend needs to die. I don’t know how colleges could be stupid enough to agree to pay out tens of millions of dollars to guys they’re firing. There’s no way that yields a positive return for the school in the long run
No. Without a "buyout" the school would be on the hook for the entire contract.

Do people not understand how employment contracts work?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
87591 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 10:03 am to
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It's not complicated, but you would never get the top coaching talent for the long-term with that strategy and you'd never have a top program as a result


only if the hiring party limits its search to what the media tells them is the best and only available talent
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