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America needs to roboticize & reindustrialize

Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:46 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:46 am

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China added 295,000 industrial robots last year.
The US? 34,000. The UK? 2,500.



Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 4:59 am to
What are they going to do with all their people? Cull the herd?
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:07 am to
We are doing this.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:10 am to
We saw where the biggest resistance to automation is coming from during last year's port worker strike: unions.

Increased automation is an inevitable as tech advances bring automation costs down while wages continue to increase, but the unions are going to continue to fight it even if it allows other countries to leapfrog us in production and advances.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:18 am to
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We saw where the biggest resistance to automation is coming from during last year's port worker strike: unions.
Pretty much every published political or moral stance of American Labor Unions are the worst possible choices of an issue.

They (unions) are run by folks with a single purpose: to maintain their own existence and situation.

Absolutely zero consideration of what is right or fair or honorable; nothing other than existentialism for themselves.
Posted by HangmanPage1
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Member since Aug 2021
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:21 am to
As you put more and more people out of a job, who do these businesses expect to buy their products/services. Are we heading to universal income?
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:35 am to
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What are they going to do with all their people? Cull the herd?


One child policy already did that a good bit. That being said, I would have severe doubts China is actually this far along.
Posted by Dadren
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Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:08 am to
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One child policy already did that a good bit

This is a good call out. What’s going on in China is happening for very different reasons because their working population is rapidly shrinking.

They’re trying to replace productivity of people they know won’t exist in a generation.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:10 am to
Government spent billions retooling auto makers factories.

They deserve to lose.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37868 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 8:49 am to
You shift labor as needed. You don't need people for low skill jobs that can be automated. You train people for higher skilled jobs that produce more output. If Louisiana had any sense, which it doesn't, it would figure out what needs Texas will have in the coming century and set up schools to train people for that. Louisiana could do well sucking off the Texas teet if it wanted to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 10:24 am to
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As you put more and more people out of a job, who do these businesses expect to buy their products/services.


They will have to do just as wagon makers did when the internal combustion engine was refined enough to begin replacing horse-and-buggy conveyance with motor vehicles: the move to another industry. The real problem is that we have an astonishingly large number of people who either don't have the ability to work jobs above the low-skill or no-skill level or live within a culture where not even trying to rise above that is discouraged. A big part of countering that discouragement aspect is to bring shame back to being a slack-arse (Tammii-Sue in the meth park or N'yquillia in the ghetto who see their only job in life as popping out more future Section 8 recipients) and encouraging success.

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Are we heading to universal income?


I hope not. We saw the impact of just sniffing that shitpot with the inflation from the COVID stimmy checks. Giving that steroids would be a quick ticket to a complete crash of the world economy.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:16 pm to
Good question

Surely the advancements will create new jobs that will replace those taken by robotics & AI
Posted by FIREAWAY
Member since Jul 2022
453 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:18 pm to
I'm not worried about the Chinese. They've had the most actual people there and still couldn't take over the world. They are dumb.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
25312 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:20 pm to
The rush to make humans less and less significant in the world is going to have costs far worse than any efficiency gains and shaved costs in doing business. So few people are worried about the impact to people in the name of making shite more efficient.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
76123 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:22 pm to
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So few people are worried about the impact to people in the name of making shite more efficient


It's a race to the bottom.

Few companies are racing to make basic human lives better with automation, just create an object that boosts the bottomline for the board.


Income is outpacing prices to the bottom.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 5:24 pm
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
1452 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:30 pm to
quote:

You shift labor as needed. You don't need people for low skill jobs that can be automated. You train people for higher skilled jobs that produce more output


Those "higher skilled jobs" are being taken over by AI.

We're in a full on race to replace ourselves.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19950 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:34 pm to
I think we need to get out of the mindset of economic gains at all costs. People can’t afford a home and land, and illegals are undercutting our labor force. Idgaf about China and their robots. The only thing keeping China afloat is the one thing they cannot afford to lose. We shouldn’t make the same mistake and hedge all our bets on automation and technology.

We need to get rid of our entitlement state and become self sufficient again, regain the honor in work again that our forbears had.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30009 posts
Posted on 10/13/25 at 5:45 pm to
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What are they going to do with all their people? Cull the herd?


They have a shrinking population, just read about the Chinese demographics problem. The meshes well with that in many respects.

I keep talking about how we are letting China have the advantage in EVs and people hear just laugh it off. Last month an EV manufacturer just hit 308 mph at ATP Papenburg in Germany. That alone is a major milestone.
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