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If we can't get consistent protection for Nuss against 3-man defensive fronts....
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:08 pm
What's the best path forward? 3 men pushing our OL around like rag dolls leaves 8 to smother our receivers. If our offense sees that front is there some way to make it work to our advantage?
From my non-coaching perspective, it seems like three men doing twists and such are usually bottled up in/around the pocket. And it seems like WAY too many of our called runs go into the teeth of that pass rush for little to no gain.
Would more jet sweeps to #0 to quickly hit the edge while the defense peels back to cover our receivers be a good option? Something else?
There's always advantages to be had against any defensive alignment - just wondering how you'd take advantage of teams going at you with 3 DL.
From my non-coaching perspective, it seems like three men doing twists and such are usually bottled up in/around the pocket. And it seems like WAY too many of our called runs go into the teeth of that pass rush for little to no gain.
Would more jet sweeps to #0 to quickly hit the edge while the defense peels back to cover our receivers be a good option? Something else?
There's always advantages to be had against any defensive alignment - just wondering how you'd take advantage of teams going at you with 3 DL.
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Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:08 pm to Dotarian
I miss Moffitt
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:11 pm to bayou85
quote:
I miss Moffitt
If he was here people would say he had a hand in nuss’ injury
#Moffittized
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:16 pm to Dotarian
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If we can't get consistent protection for Nuss against 3-man defensive fronts...
What is this fake hypothetical?
He was sacked once against OM.
7 QBH
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:17 pm to Dotarian
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3 men pushing our OL around like rag dolls
So yes sometimes we have a guy beat but this is WAY overblown on this board.
People spoke about pressure on that OM INT because a guy came free after the ball was out and was 3 yards away from Nuss.
Nuss is not mobile at all and doesn’t have great pocket awareness and STILL only has 7 sacks. That’s right in the middle of D 1 qbs. And right in the middle of the SEC.
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just wondering how you'd take advantage of teams going at you with 3 DL.
Call qb draw until nuss isn’t scared anymore to run when the defense drops back
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:20 pm to bayou85
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I miss Moffitt
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:20 pm to bayou85
That’s funny because LSU fans were saying Moffitt was washed up and needed to go in his last few years at LSU. Crazy how people never realize what they have until it’s gone
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:21 pm to Dotarian
Teach Nuss how to run and slide.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:26 pm to JimTiger72
Sacks don’t equal time to throw. In 2022 we gave up a record for sacks at LSU while also being 3rd in the SEC in time allowed.
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:31 pm to JimTiger72
quote:Hammond High had rushers breaking through into our backfield more often than I would have thought possible. Tech (which isn't that bad on defense) ran a 3-3-5 and got a lot of pressure with 1 or 2 fewer rushers than we had OL. OM used three rushers and basically lived in our backfield for most of the game.
What is this fake hypothetical?
He was sacked once against OM.
7 QBH
You can read stats about QBH, but actually watching the games all I see is our OL getting out-juked, outwitted or just overmatched against far fewer DL than we had protectors/blockers.
And, for a moment, throw "stats" out the window and consider that if 3 men can make our non-running QB uncomfortable in the pocket that still leaves 7 or 8 in coverage.
Nuss hasn't had a consistently clean pocket to throw from for the entire season, regardless of who we played. Him being injured (to whatever degree) coupled with a reluctance or instruction to throw instead of run only makes our OL problems that much worse, given the offensive gameplans we've seen so far.
Just my opinion.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:35 pm to Dotarian
Need a running QB
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:40 pm to Dotarian
quote:Maybe sit out the remainder of the season and try again next season ?
What's the best path forward?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 4:43 pm to tigersbh
quote:I get what you're saying.
Need a running QB
But given the team we can put on the field right now, how would you take advantage of light boxes and blanket coverage on our WR's? My opinion is that our OL can't hold up long in passpro against fewer people, our QB doesn't run and our running backs just haven't gotten going (for whatever reason) other than a few really good plays here and there.
Question still stands - when they go light on the pass rushers against this offense, where are the realistic opportunities to take advantage?
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:19 pm to Dotarian
Qb draw until he’s not afraid to run
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:21 pm to Dotarian
Probably depends on the opponent but in the case of Ole Miss the edges were there for us, we just didn’t take advantage.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:22 pm to Adam Banks
quote:You're assuming that Nuss isn't running because he's scared, and discounting the possibility that either (1) he's been told NOT to run and/or (2) he doesn't see rushing lanes in front of him until it's too late to take them.
Call qb draw until nuss isn’t scared anymore to run when the defense drops back
Given the speed we have at WR, coupled with Nuss' "injury", I could easily see the coaches telling him to wait for one of our speed-burners to open up downfield. We don't have a good, hard-nosed receiving TE like Taylor this year, and Anderson (our only real threat over the middle) got hurt.
Also, if Nuss is intentionally hanging around in the pocket waiting to throw he might not see open grass right under his nose.
Yes, I agree that Nuss leaves a LOT of yards on the field instead of running a couple of times. But I'm not convinced it's because he's afraid to run.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:23 pm to tigersbh
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Need a running QB
No doubt a DT QB helps, but this is such a lazy solution for BK and staff.
Because our OC can't scheme, OL coach can't teach blocking, OL can't block, TEs can't block, WR's suck at blocking, and RBs can't hit the right lanes, we have to rely on a QB that can cover up everyone else's ineptitude.
How about the above individuals do their job?
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:28 pm to Dotarian
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Yes, I agree that Nuss leaves a LOT of yards on the field instead of running a couple of times. But I'm not convinced it's because he's afraid to run.
Ok.
Qb draw.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:28 pm to Madking
quote:That's what I was seeing as well. The three DL were mainly getting a push (or getting through) between the tackles, and the edges seemed to be cleared out for a good 5-10 yards with the coverage peeling back on our speedy WR's.
in the case of Ole Miss the edges were there for us, we just didn’t take advantage.
Getting the ball out on the edge (or getting it to the edge with a fast-burner) was open for most of the game. Heck, if Nuss could/would just roll out intentionally towards the edge a few times that might have taken some of the heat off from the pass rush up the middle (they usually weren't coming around the ends).
I'm not hopeful, but I am hoping that Sloan and BK are looking at that and figuring out how to take advantage. I said it in another thread - knowing that the next few teams you face are likely to repeat the exact same defense that has given us problems HAS to give you an advantage in play-calling.
Posted on 10/6/25 at 5:30 pm to JimTiger72
Tell me you don’t watch the games without telling me you don’t watch the games. The OL is CLEARLY the problem we have. Hell, SELA pushed them around until they got tired because of relative talent
This post was edited on 10/6/25 at 5:31 pm
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