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Another WWII thread: German POWs find out first hand the war was lost
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:19 pm
The scale of American industrial might outstripped even the Allies' ability to grasp, much less the Axis. Short of a lack of political will to see it through, America was never going to lose this war. There's a mention of Higgins boat production.
(Long video, but you don't have to watch. You can just listen.)
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:21 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Nevermind
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:22 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Weren’t most German soldiers and military leaders resigned to the inevitability of defeat after the 1943 defeat at Stalingrad
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:25 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:25 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Russia singlehandedly won ww2. The poli board has told me this
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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America was never going to lose this war. There's a mention of Higgins boat production.
The outcome of the war was never a certainty until early 1945. Even Eisenhower was never certain of victory. Imagine how he felt after operation Wacht Am Rhein when they threw 30 divisions against us after we thought they were defeated. Our command didn’t think the Germans could muster that kind of offensive. If not for the delaying actions of several units that threw off the timetable of the offensive, the Germans reach Antwerp and sue for peace. Ballgame.
But yes, the awesome manufacturing might of the United States ended up tipping the scales.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I'm sure they must have realized but nobody said it out loud. Rommel's private papers, which he was able to keep hidden, talk about it and are severely critical of the top leadership- he says it's ridiculous to keep fighting just so those at the top can 'prolong their miserable lives by a few more months' or words to that effect.
They seemed to be angling for some kind of peace agreement like Versailles, that would end the war with a German defeat but keep the Nazi leadership alive. The Allies made it clear they were having none of that.
They seemed to be angling for some kind of peace agreement like Versailles, that would end the war with a German defeat but keep the Nazi leadership alive. The Allies made it clear they were having none of that.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:58 pm to Lou Loomis
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You think it's that simple? We were just going to take our ball and go home because Antwerp fell? By Dec '44/early '45 we barely had been making use of it and we were steamrolling the Germans. Monty had been dithering about with the Germans on the Scheldt estuary so it's not like Antwerp was a make it or break it logistical center. We weren't going to leave the European continent to either Stalin or Hitler. From the moment the first bomb fell on Pearl Harbor that war was over.
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f not for the delaying actions of several units that threw off the timetable of the offensive, the Germans reach Antwerp and sue for peace. Ballgame.
You think it's that simple? We were just going to take our ball and go home because Antwerp fell? By Dec '44/early '45 we barely had been making use of it and we were steamrolling the Germans. Monty had been dithering about with the Germans on the Scheldt estuary so it's not like Antwerp was a make it or break it logistical center. We weren't going to leave the European continent to either Stalin or Hitler. From the moment the first bomb fell on Pearl Harbor that war was over.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
I watched a documentary this morning about German pows who were brought to America and they couldn’t believe how great this country was and how well they were treated and fed. They were lied to for so many years that it was an eye opener for them.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:31 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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There's a mention of Higgins boat production.
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:37 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:hell yes they were.
Weren’t most German soldiers and military leaders resigned to the inevitability of defeat after the 1943 defeat at Stalingrad
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:09 pm to Lou Loomis
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But yes, the awesome manufacturing might of the United States ended up tipping the scales
I remember a documentary (don't recall the name) about WW2 and a German commander that captured some allied stuff and there were some deserts ( like cookies and similar stuff) with the stuff they captured. He knew then that if the allies had the bandwidth to deliver deserts to the front there was no way they were going to win the war.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:12 pm to klrstix
Yeah, one of the items the Germans captured was a birthday cake. He said if they had the fuel and the shipping to deliver birthday cakes, the Germans were finished.
ETA. Wait, I think I saw that scene in a movie. Battle of the Bulge, maybe?
ETA. Wait, I think I saw that scene in a movie. Battle of the Bulge, maybe?
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:37 pm to Clark14
That's the link I posted. Guess it didn't embed
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:02 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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That's the link I posted. Guess it didn't embed
All I see is a black screen saying video unavailable. Oh well, it was a good documentary just the same.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 5:27 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Why Japan had no chance. Visual comparison of ships produced per month.
Not about Germany but the comparison is still valid.
Not about Germany but the comparison is still valid.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 5:30 pm
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