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Black vs White Juries - conviction rates and race

Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:48 am
Posted by prplngldtigr
just up da bayou from down
Member since Dec 2004
7857 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:48 am


A groundbreaking study reveals racial bias in jury convictions, “When we break down this study we find that

- Black juries have a 12% conviction rate against black defendants, vs a 59% against whites. So that indicates that there is a 47% interracial bias when you have black jurors

- White juries have a 33% conviction rate against white defendants, vs a 26% against blacks, which actually demonstrates a negative 7% interracial bias

Meaning whites are more likely to convict their co-racial group than they are to convict somebody across racial lines

Whereas black juries have a 12% conviction rate against their own and a 59% conviction rate against white people

Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28022 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:50 am to
No shite, OJ Simpson ring a bell?
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20055 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:51 am to
If they could overlay Republican vs Democrat the bias would likely be hilarious.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31739 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:51 am to
That’s because they have to account for the systemic racism that’s permeated our country since inception and also the way to apply punitive reparations to the evil while devils.

/s
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66005 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:52 am to
Shocked I tell you. The people who voted themselves most racist before they were told they couldn’t be racist are in fact the most racist.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
21116 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:54 am to
Wait..... So, blacks who we are told can't be racist actually are racist?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:56 am to
Before everyone goes crazy, I 100% believe there is racial bias in jury trials. It would be absurd to think otherwise.

However…

quote:

The numbers appear loosely based on a 2007 UK study on juror voting in simulations (not actual trials), using BME (Black & Minority Ethnic) categories, not just Black. The post simplifies individual pre-deliberation votes and calculates "bias" in a way not supported by the study, which found diverse juries yield fair verdicts. US studies often show opposite trends, with all-White juries convicting Black defendants more. Overall, the claims are not fully accurate or well-founded.


-Grok
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28150 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:56 am to
I find it really hard to believe such low conviction rates across the board. I’d be interested in the types of charges that are higher vs lower conviction rates.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
12857 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:57 am to
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Black juries have a 12% conviction rate against black defendants, v

I find this extremely hard to believe. The overall jury conviction rate is between 80 and 90%. So there's no way black jury on black defendant is 12%.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91273 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:01 am to
quote:

find it really hard to believe such low conviction rates across the board. I’d be interested in the types of charges that are higher vs lower conviction rates.


Nah you should believe it at face value because it’s on social media and says what you want it to say. You’ll learn not to question this stuff next time.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88493 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:04 am to
I absolutely blew my liberal(somehow, good ones) friends’ minds with a similar discussion on which side of the Supreme Court is more biased and voting in lockstep.

It started by me saying I think we’d find the republicans on the court are willing to side with the left more than the left breaks away from their side. This was soon after the whole media onslaught about the court being FAR RIGHT and the court needing a good packing.

How do people go through life not being able to weigh/measure things like this? Does nobody have intuition, solid memory, and a good internal scale?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112071 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:05 am to
This will be fun for peremptory challenges.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
6804 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:08 am to
I laugh at anyone that says blacks can’t be racist. Then I immediately discount anything they say after that.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:09 am to
It's called jury nullification. White people need to start learning to do the same.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
27382 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:10 am to
quote:

Black juries have a 12% conviction rate against black defendants, vs a 59% against whites


Turn your TV on and the Democrats will tell you 500 times per hour how the white man is the devil, and racism is rampant.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7072 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:11 am to
Drawing from my own life experiences and things I have seen with my own two eyes...I think the average white person that sits on a jury is far more able to put any racial bias aside in order to let justice prevail than the average black person. Many black people who are now in their 60's and 70's are still clinging to that old saying "blacks can't be racists". Well, let me tell you...Yes, they can and many of them are!
Here's a great example. Do you think Al Sharpton is a racist? When that question is asked to a black person they respond that he is only promoting his people and he is not racist. Well, they would be wrong...because you can promote your people without hating on other people. Besides, in God's eyes we are all his people.
I was once called a very derogatory name by a fellow white guy because I was very good friends with a few black guys who played flag football with me. He said I was a "you know what" lover. I simply responded, no..I'm a people lover. That should be how life goes on in regard to race, IMO.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16997 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:12 am to
Now do NY against Trump
And
Black against blacks in DC
And black against white in DC
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85509 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:13 am to
It’s why black communities will never get right.

The black juries will side with the black criminal in their own communities.

Where us honkies have no problem removing bad whites from our communities.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85509 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:15 am to
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Nah you should believe it at face value because it’s on social media and says what you want it to say. You’ll learn not to question this stuff next time.


Dindu nuffin wasn’t just made up. It’s the reality of the situation.

Don’t need stats to tell me blacks are more tribal.




This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 7:19 am
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
16997 posts
Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:16 am to
Black people intimidate black witnesses as well as believe defendants are being railroaded
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