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National Guard is deploying Military Police units
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:28 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:28 am
The National Guard personnel being deployed in DC are mostly comprised of Military Police units and not combat units. The units are comprised of people that are also police officers in civilian life.
Some of the units being deployed are infantry units, but most are military police.
The libs are busy accusing Trump putting TROOPS ON THE STREETS without clarifying that these units are well trained for a police mission.
There are no armor, mechanized infantry or field artillery units being deployed. We are talking about non-combat support units and military police with specialized use of infantry units to guard certain facilities.
Washington DC is supposed to be under federal control. The Feds don't have the authority to do Chicago or other cities in the same way as DC. Trump knows this. But, the concept of the Feds coming in to support a city in need and "enhance" their police presence in the street is a perfect action that Trump can "offer". These cities have poor leadership and do not have the money or resources to fight crime in the overwhelming "mass" display of force that DC is able to muster.
The National Guard can deploy their Military Police units and make them visible on the streets to help deter crime allowing the city to use their police force doing more important police work. Like I said, the cities have limited funds and that's where the federal government with more resources and money can lend a hand.
Trump is making a lot of noise about this issue on purpose. He is doing his typical Trump stuff to make people sit up and notice the crime problem in these cities. He knows DC is an exception to what he can do, but it is certainly making the big city Mayors stand up and have to defend their poor performance.
So, Don't get caught up in Trump's rhetoric. He is just using his "bully pulpit" to shine a light on a problem. But, the feds CAN help the cities if they are asked to come in and the National Guard can help as well. The National Guards mission is to protect the homeland and help out in cases of emergency to help keep law and order. The guard is not deploying major combat units. It's mostly Military Police and supporting units. This is a great use of assets to help enhance the local police force.
Just sit back and watch.
Some of the units being deployed are infantry units, but most are military police.
The libs are busy accusing Trump putting TROOPS ON THE STREETS without clarifying that these units are well trained for a police mission.
There are no armor, mechanized infantry or field artillery units being deployed. We are talking about non-combat support units and military police with specialized use of infantry units to guard certain facilities.
Washington DC is supposed to be under federal control. The Feds don't have the authority to do Chicago or other cities in the same way as DC. Trump knows this. But, the concept of the Feds coming in to support a city in need and "enhance" their police presence in the street is a perfect action that Trump can "offer". These cities have poor leadership and do not have the money or resources to fight crime in the overwhelming "mass" display of force that DC is able to muster.
The National Guard can deploy their Military Police units and make them visible on the streets to help deter crime allowing the city to use their police force doing more important police work. Like I said, the cities have limited funds and that's where the federal government with more resources and money can lend a hand.
Trump is making a lot of noise about this issue on purpose. He is doing his typical Trump stuff to make people sit up and notice the crime problem in these cities. He knows DC is an exception to what he can do, but it is certainly making the big city Mayors stand up and have to defend their poor performance.
So, Don't get caught up in Trump's rhetoric. He is just using his "bully pulpit" to shine a light on a problem. But, the feds CAN help the cities if they are asked to come in and the National Guard can help as well. The National Guards mission is to protect the homeland and help out in cases of emergency to help keep law and order. The guard is not deploying major combat units. It's mostly Military Police and supporting units. This is a great use of assets to help enhance the local police force.
Just sit back and watch.
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Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:31 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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The National Guard personnel being deployed in DC are mostly comprised of Military Police units and not combat units.
Most MPs aren’t actually cops. They specialize in force protection and prisoner detention.
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The units are comprised of people that are also police officers in civilian life.
Soooo, we’re taking cops off the streets and putting them in green tree suits to police the streets? Kinda counterintuitive if you ask me.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:43 am to HeadCall
National Guard units are comprised of people that live in an entire state. So having actual police officers in these units are a huge plus and not drawing officers from just one source.
Your post acts like force protection specialization somehow doesn't apply to the mission in DC. Force protection encompasses the measures and procedures used to safeguard military and civilian personnel, their families, facilities, and equipment from threats. This is helping people avoid being mugged or attacked in the streets.
This is what we are seeing being so successful in DC. Good try to poke holes in my OP, but you fell way short...
Your post acts like force protection specialization somehow doesn't apply to the mission in DC. Force protection encompasses the measures and procedures used to safeguard military and civilian personnel, their families, facilities, and equipment from threats. This is helping people avoid being mugged or attacked in the streets.
This is what we are seeing being so successful in DC. Good try to poke holes in my OP, but you fell way short...
Posted on 8/26/25 at 9:52 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
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National Guard units are comprised of people that live in an entire state. So having actual police officers in these units are a huge plus and not drawing officers from just one source.
I assume that for most of the guardsmen this is a volunteer mission. Which means it may be some cops but eventually they’ll have to go back to work. Or maybe some college students that can take off a semester to make some cash but they’ll have to go back to school. Or a bunch of kids or guys who can’t hold down or get a good paying job so they jump on every set of national guard orders they come across.
Or they’re DC national guardsmen in which case you actually are taking officers off the street to put on an army uniform.
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Your post acts like force protection specialization somehow doesn't apply to the mission in DC. Force protection encompasses the measures and procedures used to safeguard military and civilian personnel, their families, facilities, and equipment from threats. This is helping people avoid being mugged or attacked in the streets.
It’s a show of force for sure. But in the end it’s a very short term solution. Again, it’s DC so the president can deploy whoever he wants there as far as I’m concerned but he can’t and won’t do it in other high crime cities across the country.
Maybe this will convince governors across the country to adopt some of the same tactics to curb crime but again, a short term solution to a long term problem.
And frankly it’s unamerican to have armed troops from the US Army just rolling the streets all the time.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:01 am to HeadCall
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I assume that for most of the guardsmen this is a volunteer mission.
You keep doing this yet your understanding of the NG, let alone any part of the military, is laughable.
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And frankly it’s unamerican to have armed troops from the US Army just rolling the streets all the time.
Wouldn't be neccessary if democrats wouldn't let their zoo population run wild. Also, there is an entire military enterprise geared towards DSCA, whole sections of Federal law for how the military can support civil authorities in a tiered all-hazards response. Using the military like this is nothing new, but ignorant children like you who know next to nothing about the military or its domestic missions keep assuming...
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:01 am to HeadCall
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And frankly it’s unamerican to have armed troops from the US Army just rolling the streets all the time.
There is nothing unamerican about having Americans police other Americans. If the local police can’t then bring in ones who can.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:03 am to TurkeyBaconLeg
Bring them into every city and arrest all the scumbag politicians. Anyone who is accused or proven to have defrauded me and you.
Let’s have a Nuremberg trial here in Houston, TX.
Let’s have a Nuremberg trial here in Houston, TX.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:04 am to Roll on Tigers
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There is nothing unamerican about having Americans police other Americans.
Fact. Anyone who disagrees just wants mayhem and chaos.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:07 am to Clames
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You keep doing this yet your understanding of the NG, let alone any part of the military, is laughable.
Do you have any stats and figures on the troops to deployed to DC? What their civilian occupations are? What their ages are? Whether they were involuntarily or voluntarily mobilized?
If not you’re just assuming as well.
My assumptions come from 24 years in the military, the last 10 of which were in the National Guard.
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Wouldn't be neccessary if democrats wouldn't let their zoo's run wild.
Probably
quote:Theres also laws against using the army for law enforcement. I’m sure you e heard of it
Also, there is an entire military enterprise geared towards DSCA, whole sections of Federal law for how the military can support civil authorities in an all-hazards response.
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Using the military like this is nothing new, but ignorant children like you who know next to nothing about the military or its domestic missions keep assuming...
If you’re talking riots, controlling the border, natural disaster response then sure. Even then, with exception of maybe border control, NG units rarely if ever have arrest authority. In fact, I’ve never seen such a case in my experiences.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:14 am to Roll on Tigers
From what I understand, the NG is being placed in lower crime areas, freeing up local cops to concentrate on the high crime areas.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 10:19 am to Roll on Tigers
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There is nothing unamerican about having Americans police other Americans. If the local police can’t then bring in ones who can.
Also, only uncivilized animals need policing. Sad we have a lot of these hanging around.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 11:23 am to HeadCall
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Do you have any stats and figures on the troops to deployed to DC? What their civilian occupations are? What their ages are? Whether they were involuntarily or voluntarily mobilized?
I can probably get a lot of that info, 27 years and counting in the Army here. Though none of that really matters in how they can perform the given mission.
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My assumptions come from 24 years in the military, the last 10 of which were in the National Guard.
I have more than 10 years in DSCA-related sourced units, including MP and medical units. I have a very good understanding of how the civil authority support missions work vs. the go-to-war mission.
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Theres also laws against using the army for law enforcement. I’m sure you e heard of it
Yeah, and Title 32 troops can do direct law enforcement activities. We can have a high-level discussion on the laws at work here, sure you will learn far more from me than what you imagine you'd teach me though...
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If you’re talking riots, controlling the border, natural disaster response then sure. Even then, with exception of maybe border control, NG units rarely if ever have arrest authority. In fact, I’ve never seen such a case in my experiences.
DSCA can be very localized, every military commander has immediate response authority as long as they follow the proper notification procedures. NG can detain individuals, legally distinct from arresting soneone and certainly within the scope of supporting civilian police.
This post was edited on 8/26/25 at 11:25 am
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:08 pm to HeadCall
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And frankly it’s unamerican to have armed troops from the US Army just rolling the streets all the time.
Hasn't even been 20 years and you forgot about Katrina? I loved it when the NG was there. The only people that didn't were the criminals that didn't head to BR or Houston.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:10 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
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There are no armor, mechanized infantry or field artillery units being deployed.
Yet.
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:15 pm to HeadCall
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Kinda counterintuitive if you ask me.
What do the actual results say?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:35 pm to Clames
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Yeah, and Title 32 troops can do direct law enforcement activities. We can have a high-level discussion on the laws at work here, sure you will learn far more from me than what you imagine you'd teach me though...
I’d be happy to learn from your expertise. But it’s really a moot point because there aren’t going to be any Title 32 units deployed to places like Chicago, Baltimore or Los Angeles to police the streets. We all know it.
And there won’t be any title 10 soldiers deploying to those areas either unless Trump just wants to put on a dog and pony show of having them stand in front of federal facilities. Which doesn’t address the problem.
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DSCA can be very localized, every military commander has immediate response authority as long as they follow the proper notification procedures. NG can detain individuals, legally distinct from arresting soneone and certainly within the scope of supporting civilian police.
I’m willing to listen. When was the last time DSCA was used for regular policing duties that didn’t involve some sort of natural disaster or something like the Olympics or a presidential inauguration type event?
Posted on 8/26/25 at 12:47 pm to TurkeyBaconLeg
What democrats don't take into consideration, especially their political "leaders", is that if this question were posed to all of their constituents:
"Do you think crime has gotten out of control and do you want National Guard MP Units patrolling the streets to eradicate crime?",
80% would say "frick YES".
The people that don't have a problem with this, THE MAJORITY, understand that they have nothing to worry about because they aren't pieces of shite trying to murder gang members or rob people. They aren't hoodrats and they don't suck at that government teet so they don't fall in lock step with the vocal minority of hoodrats in that area.
Many, many people are also tired of the amount of Venezuelan's (over 100,000) that have moved into their ghetto's. There is a war that can break out at any moment in Chicago. The majority of the law abiding citizens in these democrat shitholes are frustrated that they cannot go to the grocery store or gas station at night without an elevated risk for their safety.
"Do you think crime has gotten out of control and do you want National Guard MP Units patrolling the streets to eradicate crime?",
80% would say "frick YES".
The people that don't have a problem with this, THE MAJORITY, understand that they have nothing to worry about because they aren't pieces of shite trying to murder gang members or rob people. They aren't hoodrats and they don't suck at that government teet so they don't fall in lock step with the vocal minority of hoodrats in that area.
Many, many people are also tired of the amount of Venezuelan's (over 100,000) that have moved into their ghetto's. There is a war that can break out at any moment in Chicago. The majority of the law abiding citizens in these democrat shitholes are frustrated that they cannot go to the grocery store or gas station at night without an elevated risk for their safety.
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