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Thoughts on Malcolm X...

Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:25 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:25 pm
Specifically his separatist ideas. X felt like black people on this continent could never recover unless/until they had full self-governance. He felt that white people trying to improve black communities only made them weaker. He felt like black people needed to separate and that white people in America owed them their own land where they could self-govern. That was the only way they could regain competence and self-respect.

I'll be darned if I don't think he was right.

Black culture just keeps sliding further and further down into oblivion. To be fair so does white culture, but I would argue that white culture hasn't converted nearly as many people into individuals whose actions are simply not compatible with an orderly and civil society.

I don't know of any white gangs comparable to the Crips or the Bloods. In prison, sure, but not on the outside. I don't know of white gangs shooting each other in inner cities like black gangs, for example.

I don't know of a white activity comparable to polar bear hunting or wilding.

Who would have thought that out of all the civil rights leaders, X's analysis would be the one to age the best?

There are 41 million black people in America. Is it time to give them Washington State and Oregon and just part ways? They'd have a major river for a water supply, several natural resources they could take advantage of, and seaports. California is home to almost 40 million residents and the square mile comparison between it and those two states is pretty much equal.

Should we listen to Malcolm X and just get a divorce?

This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:26 pm to
What do you think Trump's trying to get Greenland for
This post was edited on 8/3/25 at 8:31 pm
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:27 pm to
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What do you think Trump's trying to get Greenland


You think he'll change the name to a different color?
Posted by Feelthebarn
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:28 pm to
Governing themselves usually results in lots and lots of killing one another, and people in close proximity
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:31 pm to
They lack the leadership to make a go of it, their "leaders" are grifters and panderers, and have no true regard for black Americans.

I don't know how I feel about your idea... I truly think if we, as the whole of society, got away from 'race' entirely, that over a generation or two things would normalize.

Then again- maybe it wouldn’t... On one hand it seems like the black community had their ducks in a decent row in decades prior to LBJ... On the other hand, I do believe there are fundamental differences between different people groups.

I'll be eager to read the responses in this thread.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:31 pm to
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Governing themselves usually results in lots and lots of killing one another, and people in close proximity


I suppose i wasn't so concerned about how prophetic X's words might be for that stage of the process, more so about how beneficial they might be (if followed) for the rest of society.

If they were a sovereign nation and they were threatening the United States there would be a real easy fix for that, and the problem would be solved.
Posted by Sam Quint
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:32 pm to
Black self governance. Lol.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:32 pm to
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Governing themselves usually results in lots and lots of killing one another, and people in close proximity


Look no further than Birmingham, Jackson, Memphis, NOLA, Baltimore
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:33 pm to
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They lack the leadership to make a go of it, their "leaders" are grifters and panderers, and have no true regard for black Americans.


Is that my problem, or theirs?

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I don't know how I feel about your idea


Not mine. Malcolm X's.

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I truly think if we, as the whole of society, got away from 'race' entirely


I think it's impossible.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:33 pm to
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If they were a sovereign nation and they were threatening the United States there would be a real easy fix for that, and the problem would be solved.


The crabs would have to get out of the bucket in order to be a threat to anyone else... I imagine they'd be quarreling amongst themselves.
Posted by blzr
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:33 pm to
They’re clearly too dumb to govern
Posted by BeesWax
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:33 pm to
Those states are beautiful. It’s the policies that suck. So if we were going to kick all the liberals out of Washington and Oregon, I’d probably go live there myself.
Posted by Figgy
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:35 pm to
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Is it time to give them Washington State and Oregon and just part ways? They'd have a major river for a water supply, several natural resources they could take advantage of, and seaports.


Cool. But it we’re going to create Wakanda it should be confederate states paying the price if anyone has to. Not that they should. So give them Georgia, Florida and Louisiana. Because why not. They have rivers and seaports.

Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:35 pm to
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They’re clearly too dumb to govern


Is that my problem, or theirs?

The problem now is that far too many of them will not even govern themselves as individuals.

And I'm tired of that being my problem.
Posted by wackatimesthree
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:36 pm to
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But it we’re going to create Wakanda it should be confederate states paying the price if anyone has to.


If you find any confederate states left, you let me know. Last one I was aware of reverted back to being a United State well over a hundred years ago.
Posted by faraway
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

X felt like black people on this continent could never recover unless/until they had full self-governance.


quote:

Should we listen to Malcolm X and just get a divorce?
yes but I know that means they will destroy themselves just like they destroy every city they take over.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:38 pm to
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I truly think if we, as the whole of society, got away from 'race' entirely

I think it's impossible.


Why?

Seriously... if every daggum form didn't pigeon hole us on race, if race were ignored... why couldn't the current racial animus self correct?

I'm white... I don't differentiate between lighter or darker shades of white, I feel no differently about an Italian or a Greek or a French... actually, frick the french... or a Brit. Once upon a time in America we DID pay attention to white or white'ish lineages, we don't anymore.. and nobody cares.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:39 pm to
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But it we’re going to create Wakanda it should be confederate states


No.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:39 pm to
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Because why not.


Because they'd be in the way if we did that. Washington and Oregon get them out of the way as much as is possible.

But (as is so typical here), you're mindlessly fixating on the irrelevant details.

The point is not which states they would get.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 8/3/25 at 8:39 pm to
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