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Russia and China
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:23 pm
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:23 pm
Has anyone considered that the decoy of the B2's going to Guam was done not to deceive Iran, but to deceive Russia and China? And that there is a probability that Russia or China or both would have warned Iran if they could have detected the B2's? And that they (Russia and China) are probably realizing in the aftermath that US Stealth capability is more formidable than they thought? And that Russia is now considering that any Westward expansion in Europe would be considerably more difficult than they had previously thought? And that they are both realizing now that they not only failed to detect the B2's, but also the many support aircraft, such as tankers, fighters, and E-warfare planes, that took part in the mission?
Or do you think that Russia and China knew what was going on and said nothing to Iran?
Or do you think that Russia and China knew what was going on and said nothing to Iran?
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Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:27 pm to CharlesUFarley
China and Russia have stated that they don't like Trump because he is too unpredictable. They also think that he is slightly crazy which works in our favor.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:30 pm to CharlesUFarley
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And that they are both realizing now that they not only failed to detect the B2's
The world is round you moron.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:30 pm to CharlesUFarley
All of the repositioning served a dual purpose
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:32 pm to CharlesUFarley
If Russia and China can track our B2 bombers, we’re kinda fricked either way right?
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:36 pm to CharlesUFarley
It’ll be interesting to watch Russia. Putin had developed an alliance of sorts with Iran. He gets oil and sophisticated drones in return for at least some degree of support… Maybe he thought
Iran could take the place of Syria…
Iran could take the place of Syria…
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:45 pm to VOR
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It’ll be interesting to watch Russia
Russia can’t even handle a shite arse country led by a gay actor. The frick are they going to do?
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:48 pm to CharlesUFarley
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Has anyone considered that the decoy of the B2's going to Guam was done not to deceive Iran, but to deceive Russia and China? And that there is a probability that Russia or China or both would have warned Iran if they could have detected the B2's? And that they (Russia and China) are probably realizing in the aftermath that US Stealth capability is more formidable than they thought? And that Russia is now considering that any Westward expansion in Europe would be considerably more difficult than they had previously thought? And that they are both realizing now that they not only failed to detect the B2's, but also the many support aircraft, such as tankers, fighters, and E-warfare planes, that took part in the mission?
Yes.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 8:55 pm to CharlesUFarley
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Or do you think that Russia and China knew what was going on and said nothing to Iran?
Everyone knew if you watched any news or social media. That many B-2 bombers at once. We all watched.
We launched 30+ air tanker refuel planes to Europe days before.
Russia, China, Turkey, Iran will all align together in a short time.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:01 pm to VOR
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and sophisticated drones
They bought the right to the technology so now they make them in Russia.
This war showed Iran it's weakness and it can't go it alone any more. It will likely push Iran into their orbit and give them in return more access to Persian gulf. The b2s are a cool toy but not a game changer in war vs the majors. They also likely did little damage to Fordow but we shall see in years to come as it's obvious neither side will admit it either way as it was a propaganda skirmish.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:06 pm to Rhino5
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Russia, China, Turkey, Iran will all align together in a short time.
The hell they will.
Russia and China's navies are worthless, outside of maybe attempting to take an island 100 miles off of China's coast and their air forces are straight garbage. Iran is already begging Russia for help and it took Russia less than a day to politely say 'you're own your own, Comrade.' Turkey will continue to attempt to play both sides of the coin but it's clear who's 'holding the cards' and it isn't the idiots bogged down in the dumbest war in over a century, so they'll work to keep their NATO cards.
Oh sure, they'll continue to do backroom deals with each other because they're too scared of the rath of both the American's and the Europeans to do it in the open, but if you think that the those countries are going to somehow join together to wreck shite your crazy.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:08 pm to BlackPawnMartyr
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They also likely did little damage to Fordow
At the very least, Fordow is crippled for years. At most it was completely destroyed.
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:10 pm to Leopold
Ehhh I’d leave Europe out because they’re not even scary enough to be considered a paper tiger
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:10 pm to Leopold
China would backstab Russia in a hot second.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:12 pm to CharlesUFarley
Considering Russia has now spent more than 3 years struggling to capture 1/3 of a country that is decades behind most of Europe militarily, I’m not too concerned about their ambitions.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:13 pm to Jack Daniel
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If Russia and China can track our B2 bombers, we’re kinda fricked either way right?
They can definitely track the tankers and some of the support aircraft, and they definitely operate a network of radar and observation efforts that tracks the movement of US and NATO military assets, plus activity at various bases. They probably new how many B2's took off and when they took off, then tracked refueling aircraft across the globe. They probably also can detect a B2 to an extent if they have a good idea of where to look, just probably not good enough to lock a missile on one, yet.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:13 pm to Gifman
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Fordow is crippled for a decade
More likely just the entrances they can dig out easily. With that being said US likely gave them a warning and protection allowing them to line up all those targets, I mean trucks, and have a moving day. Pretty interesting how these things are actually negotiated behind closed doors
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:17 pm to j1897
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The world is round you moron.
No shite.
That's why the US,, China, and the former USSR/Russia have been operating radar and intelligence stations around the globe for many years, around 70 in some cases.
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:21 pm to CharlesUFarley
I keep hearing rumblings that Trump and Putin have been secretly in discussion about teaming up with a lot of things
Russia is on the brink of bankruptcy and could use our help to help their economy
Russia is on the brink of bankruptcy and could use our help to help their economy
This post was edited on 6/24/25 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/24/25 at 9:21 pm to Sweep Da Leg
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Ehhh I’d leave Europe out because they’re not even scary enough to be considered a paper tiger
I understand why people think that Europe is weak, but when it comes to China the EU is China's biggest trading partner and China needs the EU far more than the EU needs China. China has to play nice with the EU in a way that they don't even with us. If China pisses of the EU, they could find themselves literally starving to death, as unlikely as that may be.
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