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Is this the 4D chess game that Trump is playing to lower prices of all goods?
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:45 pm
Plausible?
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 6:47 pm to hikingfan
Not a bad idea honestly
Posted on 3/12/25 at 7:11 pm to hikingfan
A 20% drop in the stock market is enough to trigger the fed to cut to 0?
Lol
Lol
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:08 pm to hikingfan
I was in that thread, all of those 99999 replies were calling the OP a giant drooling retard.
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 3/12/25 at 8:31 pm to hikingfan
I have resigned to the fact that Trump is comfortable with a massive market correction or recession in the “short” term in order to get things somewhat normal. Past 3 years it seems like everything just soaring…it can’t keep happening, something has to give. Prices can’t go up, thus raising wages, thus you have to increase prices again to cover increased wages etc etc etc, it has to explode.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:18 pm to hikingfan
That post along with many on this board about “refinancing the debt” shows basically zero working knowledge of how treasuries work.
There isn’t enough demand for long term treasuries for Trump to extend the maturity out too far. To use a household example, at best he may be able to do some balance transfers to promo-rate credit cards for approximately 25% of his outstanding debt. It’s still just kicking the can down the road though.
I can go into more detail about why this simply cannot work in the real world, but hopefully that suffices.
There isn’t enough demand for long term treasuries for Trump to extend the maturity out too far. To use a household example, at best he may be able to do some balance transfers to promo-rate credit cards for approximately 25% of his outstanding debt. It’s still just kicking the can down the road though.
I can go into more detail about why this simply cannot work in the real world, but hopefully that suffices.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 9:57 pm to slackster
quote:I agree. I just wonder why this doesn’t interest more people. The US’s credit is being downgraded by the market in real time it seems.
There isn’t enough demand for long term treasuries for Trump to extend the maturity out too far.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:02 pm to hikingfan
About that 8% owning 94%
How much of the us population owns stock
ChatGPT said:
As of recent data, around 58% of U.S. adults own stocks, either directly or through retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs. This includes individual stock investments, mutual funds, and ETFs. However, stock ownership is not evenly distributed—higher-income households and older individuals are more likely to invest in the stock market.
How much of the us population owns stock
ChatGPT said:
As of recent data, around 58% of U.S. adults own stocks, either directly or through retirement accounts like 401(k)s and IRAs. This includes individual stock investments, mutual funds, and ETFs. However, stock ownership is not evenly distributed—higher-income households and older individuals are more likely to invest in the stock market.
Posted on 3/12/25 at 10:06 pm to beaverfever
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The US’s credit is being downgraded by the market in real time it seems.
It’s not yet. The government can currently sell debt for 10-30 years for 4.3-4.6% as long as they keep the supply reasonable. That’s not some distressed debt rate for damn sure.
However, you simply cannot find enough buyers for $8T at those maturities, no matter how much that message gets recycled around here and other message boards.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 8:32 am to hikingfan
it isn't some 4D chess. It is common sense that if we can get other countries to stop putting tariffs on American products, it will boost our economy. The rest would just be gravy.
This post was edited on 3/13/25 at 8:33 am
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:23 am to rickyb223
when I want in-depth, nuanced economic analysis, my first stop is definitely 4chan
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:34 am to hikingfan
I hope so
I’m probably not even considered poor but nowadays the poorest guy in town is the guy that goes to work every day and owns a house and pays taxes and doesn’t get welfare or a bet card
The people here are that 8% that owns all the stock. They’d give up their guns and vote Kamala to see that line go up. It’s sad to see
I’m probably not even considered poor but nowadays the poorest guy in town is the guy that goes to work every day and owns a house and pays taxes and doesn’t get welfare or a bet card
The people here are that 8% that owns all the stock. They’d give up their guns and vote Kamala to see that line go up. It’s sad to see
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:35 am to hikingfan
I'm youngish and have quite a long time until retirement. I couldn't care less about the market today. I'm just continuing to add to my portfolio and acquiring long term buy and hold etf's and I don't even look at the total value.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:09 am to JiminyCricket
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I'm youngish and have quite a long time until retirement. I couldn't care less about the market today. I'm just continuing to add to my portfolio and acquiring long term buy and hold etf's and I don't even look at the total value.
Brother they’ve broken you
Our investments should be into ourselves. We should be buying rental property and opening new businesses not putting coins into an account set up by our corporate overlord employer
At the very least our corporate overlords should set up a pension for us so we have money to spend when we retire at 55 but die at 57 from mesothelioma or whatever from their chemicals
The freedom we used to have in America has been traded for the security of line going up
Posted on 3/13/25 at 10:09 am to JiminyCricket
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I’m probably not even considered poor but nowadays the poorest guy in town is the guy that goes to work every day and owns a house and pays taxes and doesn’t get welfare or a bet card
hmmm, I see what you did there.
Posted on 3/13/25 at 12:21 pm to hikingfan
We are all dreaming up reasons for some of these actions but the reality is likely that there is no plan. It's off the cuff outlines and winging it.
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