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CJJ's potential Pitching Staff Approach
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:51 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:51 am
We all remember how much of a weapon Griffin Herring was last year as a 3-4 inning closer. This morning I was reading Scott Long's (Dandydon) report about how there are 8 pitchers that are being stretched out, when it occurred to me that CJJ might be trying the same plan this year, but for every weekend game. Let the starter go 5-6 and then let your extended closer handle 3-4. These are complete hypothetical guesses (especially the order), but don't be surprised if things happen this way:
Friday:
Starter: Anderson
Extended Closer: Guidry
Saturday:
Starter: Shores
Extended Closer: Cowan
Sunday:
Starter: Eyanson
Extended Closer: Ware
CJJ also mentioned stretching Schmidt and Evans. As both freshman, I could seem them possibly doing the same strategy on midweek games for the front half of the season to bring them up to speed.
And if those stacks don't work out due to someone having an off day, you've still got Dorsey, Rizy, Mayers, Benge, Noot, Fontenot, Woods, Williams, and Primeaux to get through 9.
All of this to say that this staff is deep and not just in a "anyone can give you a inning" way, but a "we have 8 starters and then some" way. This is the type of staff needed to last through the CWS. Excited for opening day!
Friday:
Starter: Anderson
Extended Closer: Guidry
Saturday:
Starter: Shores
Extended Closer: Cowan
Sunday:
Starter: Eyanson
Extended Closer: Ware
CJJ also mentioned stretching Schmidt and Evans. As both freshman, I could seem them possibly doing the same strategy on midweek games for the front half of the season to bring them up to speed.
And if those stacks don't work out due to someone having an off day, you've still got Dorsey, Rizy, Mayers, Benge, Noot, Fontenot, Woods, Williams, and Primeaux to get through 9.
All of this to say that this staff is deep and not just in a "anyone can give you a inning" way, but a "we have 8 starters and then some" way. This is the type of staff needed to last through the CWS. Excited for opening day!
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 1:57 pm
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Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:01 am to Glizzy_gang
I think he's definitely going with a tandem starter approach.
Let's look at our starting candidates:
Shores - coming off injury
Guidry - converted reliever
Anderson - still rounding into shape from HS injuries
Ware - coming off injury
Cowan - pitchability guy adjusting to bigger conference
Eyanson - better stuff than Cowan, but still has an adjustment to make
Schmidt, Evans - Freshmen
They all have some reason (on top of the regular risk associated with pitchers) to think they may not be consistent 5+ inning guys.
Let's look at our starting candidates:
Shores - coming off injury
Guidry - converted reliever
Anderson - still rounding into shape from HS injuries
Ware - coming off injury
Cowan - pitchability guy adjusting to bigger conference
Eyanson - better stuff than Cowan, but still has an adjustment to make
Schmidt, Evans - Freshmen
They all have some reason (on top of the regular risk associated with pitchers) to think they may not be consistent 5+ inning guys.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:20 am to ProjectP2294
Hopefully the offense can get it going early on while we figure out which pitchers can and can’t be relied on down the stretch. The talent is there, the production in the sec isn’t…. Yet
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:46 am to Glizzy_gang
I don’t think you can realistically plan your pitching this way
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:51 am to Lester Earl
I don't see anything wrong with planning it this way. It comes down to those guys being able to do it consistently like Herring did. If not, bring in one of the other shorter inning guys I listed and piece it together to get through the game. Maybe in post season play you have to tinker more based on matchups. My point is CJJ realistically planned the Friday games this way last year and somewhat used Ack the same way
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:55 am to Glizzy_gang
anyone interested, Hunt Palmer started his position breakdown on Louisianasports.net
catcher today
catcher today
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:56 am to ProjectP2294
I see your points, but the Anderson one is kind of a stretch so you would have something negative on him extending. I don’t think there’s a concern there at all.
Shores coming off of an injury shouldn’t be much of a concern either, considering he would have pitched last year if we played 1 more game. No one is expected to go over 5 innings until conference play, Jay has always gradually built them up.
Shores coming off of an injury shouldn’t be much of a concern either, considering he would have pitched last year if we played 1 more game. No one is expected to go over 5 innings until conference play, Jay has always gradually built them up.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:01 am to Tifway419
quote:
I see your points, but the Anderson one is kind of a stretch so you would have something negative on him extending.
Yes.
Him and Eyanson are probably the most ready to go out there and get us 5+ every weekend. I think the concerns with Anderson are small, but non-zero.
quote:
No one is expected to go over 5 innings until conference play, Jay has always gradually built them up.
Mainieri used to ramp them up. Jay has guys go 5+ innings the first weekend regularly.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 9:04 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:11 am to Glizzy_gang
In a perfect world this sounds good (would probably put Ware on Fri or Sat, Cowan on Sun); but it will rarely work out this way come conference play. We'll still typically use 3-4 pitchers come conference play, especially when you get into matchup lefty situations in tight games and the reality of our starters just arent going 5-6 innings on a regular basis each week. Ultimately they will get chased after 3-4 innings in a number of games.
I like Schmidt pitching midweek games to see what hes got and build him slowly over time. If any of the starters start to struggle in conference play and hes dominating, it's easy move there.
I like Schmidt pitching midweek games to see what hes got and build him slowly over time. If any of the starters start to struggle in conference play and hes dominating, it's easy move there.
This post was edited on 1/28/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:14 am to Glizzy_gang
quote:
don't see anything wrong with planning it this way.
If you plan to pitch Ware on Sunday but need him in a close game Friday because he is one of your 3 LHP, then what do you do?
This just isn’t how planning is done.
Collectively you will have certain guys do certain things but you aren’t writing them in ink like you have (or dandy don) have proposed.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:22 am to Glizzy_gang
He may early, but by the time SEC play gets here he will have his starters planned. The Friday guy needing to go 6-7, and 5-6 for the weekend guys. He will have two or three arms ready after each baased on lineups. Like he has prior years. He will ride the starter as long as he is effective and pitch counts are low.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:36 am to ProjectP2294
quote:You’re right, I was wrong here and was thinking about Mainieri. Just off the top of my head I think Holman and Hurd were allowed to go 5+ the first few weekends last season. Not sure if Hurd actually did because of his inconsistency last season, but I do remember Holman had Skenes like numbers to begin the season.
Mainieri used to ramp them up. Jay has guys go 5+ innings the first weekend regularly.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:50 am to Glizzy_gang
Good stuff. Thank you 
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:55 am to ProjectP2294
quote:Jay is at his most comfortable when he can make quick pitching changes. He’s the antithesis of PM. This staff should allow him to make a change after just 3-4 innings if needed and still bring in a guy who is as good, if not better.
I think he's definitely going with a tandem starter approach.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 10:27 am to ell_13
quote:Yeah what killed us last year was leaving guy in one inning/batter too long. Not that it was Jay's fault, just didn't have trustable arms he could bring in.
Jay is at his most comfortable when he can make quick pitching changes. He’s the antithesis of PM. This staff should allow him to make a change after just 3-4 innings if needed and still bring in a guy who is as good, if not better.
I would love to see Ack's ERA last year if you subtract his final like 2 batters from every outing
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:34 am to Glizzy_gang
quote:
how much of a weapon Griffin Hearing was last year
Where you Hearing this?
Posted on 1/28/25 at 11:44 am to Lester Earl
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This post was edited on 2/7/25 at 5:00 am
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:01 pm to Kajuncook
That’s not nice Kajuncook
Posted on 1/28/25 at 12:07 pm to Glizzy_gang
It looks like the approach is to have at least a handful of guys that can handle starter/extended innings on weekends and multiple guys that can handle multiple, shorter appearances per weekend.
Posted on 1/28/25 at 1:18 pm to Glizzy_gang
quote:
Sunday: Starter: Eyanson Extended Closer: Ware
If you’ve been listening to Jay talk over the last two weeks, there is one pitcher that he emphasizes every single time. It’s Conner Ware. He says that Ware has been one the very best pitchers on the staff.
Ware will be in the Griffin Herring role, which means if it’s a tight game on Friday night and you need a pitcher to come in and pitch 2-4 innings, he’s the guy coming in.
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