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Maryland couple first in nation to power their home with EV truck during peak use hours

Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:06 pm
Posted by Will Cover
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:06 pm
Full Story - F150

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His Ford F-150 Lightning truck is not an average pickup truck, but more like a personal power plant.


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Once Foreman got the truck, Sunrun installed a home integration system that allowed him to use the truck to power his home during a grid power outage.


Does anyone want to let this guy in on the cost of replacement batteries?
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 4:08 pm
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:09 pm to
It’s so hot now I’d have to be in the truck revving it up to keep the ac going.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:10 pm to
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to use the truck to power his home during a grid power outage.


What happens when his truck battery dies and the power's still not back on? Can't put more gas in it like a generator, and can't charge the truck battery because well the power's out. So now you have no power AND no transportation.
Posted by PikesPeak
The Penalty Box
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:39 pm to
Can we not just sit back, avoid pointing out the inevitable problems, and think “that’s pretty neat”?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:41 pm to
Thomas Massie powers his home with an old Tesla car battery
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:50 pm to
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What happens when his truck battery dies and the power's still not back on?

One of my neighbors has a Lightning and they would run out and charge it then plug is back in to run the fridge and a small a/c in their bedroom after the derecho in May.

ETA this is more about VPP than running when the grid is down.
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Does anyone want to let this guy in on the cost of replacement batteries?

There’s decent income from VPP programs. And they usually don’t cycle the batteries very hard and you only commit a certain amount to export.

Also this guy has solar on his house so he can charge from that.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted by Odysseus32
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:51 pm to
What is he gonna do when the battery runs out? Get a gas generator to charge it?
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:51 pm to
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Can we not just sit back, avoid pointing out the inevitable problems, and think “that’s pretty neat”?


Actually, we can’t.


The absurdity of relying on electric motor vehicles when all we have heard are the following is absurd:

1) Power grid: The US power grid is fragile and antiquated. The Feds haven’t allowed a new power grid to be built in decades.

2) Electromagnetic pulse set off by China or Russia would decimate the US power grid.

If there is no power how is someone supposed to use these modern marvels?


Sorry, I don’t get excited about my house running on batteries powered by my electric car.


Really, who give a shite.


Tell me where EV use has a net positive on your life or the “planet”.

It’s nothing more than new technology that is being rammed into our assholes with no thought to the following:

1) practicality


2) economically- cost to transition to

3) jobs that would be lost if the Dem filth got their way and shut down the use and exploration of oil and and Nat gas

4) National Security

Nope sorry I don’t get my dick hard because someone can now power their house by an EV.

This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 4:53 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 4:56 pm to
Baws. Rigging shite since 1718.

Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:09 pm to
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Tell me where EV use has a net positive on your life or the “planet”.
Using EV batteries for grid service through VPP programs is a benefit for everyone.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:28 pm to
Stupid. Could buy an actual solar generator and a real truck and do the same thing
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16593 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:30 pm to
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Stupid. Could buy an actual solar generator and a real truck and do the same thing

He already has a real solar setup. He’s basically using the truck battery just like a home battery and he’s getting paid for it.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:36 pm to
Can't wait to see the Scotty Kilmer video on this
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:37 pm to
Feels like a gimmick. They could just get a home battery setup if they are so worried about the grid.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16593 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:40 pm to
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Feels like a gimmick. They could just get a home battery setup if they are so worried about the grid.

This actually has nothing to do with running off grid although the system would be capable of it. This is about using EV batteries for grid support through a virtual power plant program. He’s basically using the car battery as a home energy storage system as well. This has been coming for a while now and it’s good to see the utilities finally getting cool with it.
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:45 pm to
What? Why couldn't it be a battery bank instead of an EV.

Seems the term "power plant" is being used very generously here.

It reads like a Ford advertisement.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16593 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:47 pm to
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What? Why couldn't it be a battery bank instead of an EV.

It can be any battery pack as long as it’s controlled by a utility approved unit and properly enrolled.
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Seems the term "power plant" is being used very generously here.
in this case since it’s powered by solar I think it’s appropriate but generally the VPP term is bizarre for storage only.
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It reads like a Ford advertisement.

Actually has nothing to do with Ford other than that they ship the lightning with export capability from the factory. It’s almost certainly controlled by a SolarEdge inverter. I don’t believe Ford is on anyone’s approved vendor list for this.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 5:52 pm
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 5:58 pm to
I'm just saying this feels like a Ford ad. Look at all the brand shots in this video. He said they owned Teslas but this news pieces doesn't say it is possible with those EVs.

https://www.wafb.com/2024/08/02/baltimore-man-uses-ford-f150-lightning-truck-power-home/

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in this case since it’s powered by solar


What is powered by solar? How does that relate to using a Ford 150 Lightning™ as an energy store.

From the article:
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His Ford F-150 Lightning truck is not an average pickup truck, but more like a personal power plant.


Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
16593 posts
Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:03 pm to
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What? Why couldn't it be a battery bank instead of an EV.

Because many EV companies haven’t enabled export ability. Tesla for example has programmatically prohibited it. They don’t want to dilute PowerWall sales.
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What is powered by solar? How does that relate to using a Ford 150 Lightning™ as an energy store.
His truck is. He could probably charge from grid or solar but he definitely has a PV system and that’s what actually doing all the grid service control.

It is kinda funny that Ford is getting top billing on this when it’s really a SunRun project.
This post was edited on 8/4/24 at 6:04 pm
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 8/4/24 at 6:07 pm to
Ok, so his truck has to stay plugged in from when he gets home at 5pm to 9pm as a generator (from the article) and then plugged in all night to recharge the batteries via solar?

I'd rather have a dedicated battery bank.
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