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re: Debt increases by president

Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
23135 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:02 pm to
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Quick examples:
Obama - debt went from $12T to $20T, a rise of 70%.
Trump - debt went from $20T to $28T, a rise of 40%.
There are numbers for Biden but the debt number is six months old, roughly.


Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
19348 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:04 pm to
quote:

Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.

And in fairness, it should be noted that Trump ran up his debt in 4 years to Obama's 8.
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
15108 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.


I am quoting the numbers from the site. It's not my analysis. When I say I'm giving examples, that should be a clear indicator. Some of you just look for ways to get angry.
Posted by OzonaOkapi
Patrolling the Edwards Plateau
Member since Apr 2024
400 posts
Posted on 4/20/24 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

Quick examples:
Obama - debt went from $12T to $20T, a rise of 70%.
Trump - debt went from $20T to $28T, a rise of 40%.
There are numbers for Biden but the debt number is six months old, roughly.
quote:

Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases? Outside of fondling Trump's balls, of course.

The best conceivable way to compare a four-year period to an eight-year period.
Posted by Pezzo
Member since Aug 2020
2078 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 5:58 am to
2008...$10,025
2009...$11,910
2010...$13,562
2011...$14,790
2012...$16,066
2013...$16,738
2014...$17,824
2015...$18,151
2016...$19,573
2017...$20,245...Congress raised the debt ceiling
2018...$21,516...Trump tax cuts
2019...$22,719

2020...$26,945...COVID-19 and recession

2021...$28,428...American Rescue Plan Act
2022...$30,928...Inflation Reduction Act
2023...$33,167
2024...$34,280+...And Counting....


Trump was adding 1.2T annually before Covid, which was about on par with Obummer. Biden on the other hand…2.5 trillion annually.

Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
22641 posts
Posted on 4/21/24 at 8:35 am to
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Why do you think % increases are the best way to track debt increases?
You should look at both percentages and actual dollar amounts because the value of a dollar is less over time and presidents who’ve inherited bigger and bigger debts also inherited bigger and bigger debt interest payments as part of their budget.

Running a $500 billion deficit 25 years ago would’ve been a lot worse than the same dollar amount today because of normal inflation (not Biden-flation) and a much smaller amount of the budget going towards interest payments on previous debt
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