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re: New LSU Arena? - EBR Metro Council Agenda
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:18 pm to tigersbb
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:18 pm to tigersbb
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Why in the hell would we want to reduce capacity by a third just to be like Auburn, We have a much larger population base to draw from and historically have packed the PMAC when there are ranked and contending teams. If a new arena is built it should at the least maintain the same capacity. If that is the answer it should be at a totally new site with the PMAC used until the new arena opens. Moving to the River Center would set all programs back
You can not like it and think LSU is going to start drawing 15k for basketball…one day…but the trend for quite a while now has been to smaller capacity venues. Even Texas, a school larger than LSU, in a city with a population double that of BR recently opened a new basketball arena with just over 10k in capacity. That is roughly 6K LESS than the old arena held for basketball. It’s very difficult to see LSU bucking that trend
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:22 pm to Alt26
LSU women’s basketball and gymnastics programs need at a minimum 12,500 seats or 13,000. The men could draw larger crowds with a NCAA tournament type team yearly
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:41 pm to LSUfan2008
Reading through the ordinance and tying that with other info from the TAF, I'm pretty sure this is about making sure the River Center won't compete with the new LSU Arena. It doesn't imply at all the LSU Arena would be downtown (if fact I'm 99% sure it would be on campus).
It could mean (with the hotel plans for downtown) that they plan to convert the River Center into more of a convention center and less of an arena, and leave the arena-type events to the LSU Arena. But that's speculation.
(Also my two cents - having seen the Moody Center in Austin in person - something similar would be an amazing addition to LSU and Baton Rouge.)
It could mean (with the hotel plans for downtown) that they plan to convert the River Center into more of a convention center and less of an arena, and leave the arena-type events to the LSU Arena. But that's speculation.
(Also my two cents - having seen the Moody Center in Austin in person - something similar would be an amazing addition to LSU and Baton Rouge.)
This post was edited on 2/26/24 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 2/26/24 at 7:52 pm to ShadowTigerTX
Article in the advocate LINK
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:27 pm to Kramer26
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LSU envisions the arena as the anchor of a mixed-use development that could include restaurants, a hotel and other businesses, Worsham said.
Worsham said the project is still in the exploratory phase. No site has been selected yet.
Before putting the project out for bid, LSU is waiting for the city-parish to approve the ordinance giving the new arena priority for big events, Worsham said. That will assure potential developers that they won't face major competition.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:52 pm to whoa
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The field house is connected to the track stadium
It's not. They are both completely separated. The only thing they share is a walkway between the two facilities.
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new track stadium
That is the big question. We can get a new outdoor track that's configured for better space utilization. Most outdoor facilities use the infield of a track for throwing events, as seen below:
We have sprint lanes for 100m and 100mh/110mh races which IMO is an absolute waste of space but does conserve the normal track so that it doesn't get totally torn up. Shotput is the only throwing event inside the track. Javelin/discus/hammer are all outside the track with weird viewing angles:
I've posted several times in the past about it, but ideally we would have something like Arkansas's new outdoor track. Don't necessarily need two sets of grandstands, but we can make a longer/shorter grandstand on the home stretch, build outward and use that space much more efficiently:
tour of Arkansas $15mm facility
The facility includes offices, treatment room, weight room, locker room, everything. This would consolidate everything into one location and tremendously benefit the program. $20mm is the price I last heard for LSU to do it.
Carl Maddox can easily convert into a basketball/volleyball practice facility if they move asap.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:19 pm to Kramer26
From reading the article, they want the river center to host conventions and prohibit certain live performances and sporting events to benefit lsu. Lsu wants to build an entertainment district anchored by the new arena with restaurants and a new hotel.
Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:24 pm to BBJ
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I dont honetly know how this works but the mooney center was built with private investor money. Lets say Shaw were to front $ for the building. They would then own the revenue from non lsu events such as concerts, harlem globe trotters or make up whatever you want. They would keep this revenue for say 15 years then it transfers to lsu.
Here's how the Moody center agreement works. Private money pitched in and keeps profits from the live shows, while Texas owns the land and exclusive use of the dates they use it. The Moody cost $375 million to build with a 15,000 capacity. However they block off the top section for basketball which makes it a much more intimate setting of 10,000 capacity.
I love the Moody center and I'm glad Woodward has been around to tour it. The live calendar has stayed full and it could be that way in Baton Rouge also, while also having a great experience for the fans on gameday.
I would love for LSU to also develop a partnership to keep the events flowing in. A new arena built right could really be beneficial to Baton Rouge and the region.
Hopefully Woodward follows the blueprint of other recently built arenas and gets LSU a wonderful new facility.
If you interested here are the specifics about the development of the Moody Center.
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In 2018, it was announced that Oak View Group and UT agreed to form a public-private partnership, to build a new $375 million arena. The arena will replace the Frank Erwin Center as the home for the Texas Longhorns basketball programs, and will also function as a world-class events center for the city of Austin.[4][5] The new arena is named the Moody Center following the Moody Foundation's grant of $130 million to the university. Oak View Group is funding the construction, and will manage the building in exchange for the right to keep most of the income from non-UT events, such as concerts and shows, for at least the first 35 years after opening.[6] UT, however, owns the land under the arena and will be the owner of the building. Under the terms of the agreement, the university will have exclusive control of the arena for 60 days each year to hold men's and women's basketball games, graduations, and other events.[6] Oak View Group, along with partners Live Nation and C3 Presents, will have the right to hold events on the other days.[6]
Posted on 2/26/24 at 10:37 pm to PoppaD
Most importantly where will the PVC Pipe reside on the exterior of the New said Arena?
Posted on 2/26/24 at 11:22 pm to ShadowTigerTX
NEW LSU ARENA
The land available for "the TAF Project" is located on property on the LSU campus.
The land available for "the TAF Project" is located on property on the LSU campus.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:15 am to GeorgeReymond
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imagine you can expect an agreement similar to Texas and Oak View.
Louisiana doesn’t like P3 deals for huge needs like toll roads, you expect the politicians to sign off on a P3 for an arena?
As far as location… I love the idea of a facility with convention halls, hotels, restaurants, etc, but where is there y room for that with parking and traffic flow, etc?
This would be awesome if they can do this but it’s going to require the state to start acting not like retards.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:48 am to nicholastiger
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Let's hope this doesn't get caught up in politics because if you have ever watched a Metro Council meeting this might be 10 years down the road.
5 years would be just in time for Wade's SEC title run after returning to LSU in 3 years.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:52 am to Alt26
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You can not like it and think LSU is going to start drawing 15k for basketball…one day…but the trend for quite a while now has been to smaller capacity venues. Even Texas, a school larger than LSU, in a city with a population double that of BR recently opened a new basketball arena with just over 10k in capacity. That is roughly 6K LESS than the old arena held for basketball. It’s very difficult to see LSU bucking that trend
You are talking out of your arse. The moody is 15k, but they don't use the upper deck for all basketball games at this point. With the upper deck and floor seating for a center stage show like harry styles it was over 16k.
The spurs also played a couple of games there with 16k. I believe they have opened the upper deck for a couple of early sellout Texas games, and we should do the same at LSU.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:19 am to Kramer26
I know this is completely secondary and i know theyd find a solution that works but i wonder what happens to mike while they build the new arena if theyre just sticking it on top of the pmac? feel like that might be too close to just leave him there while all that's going on. maybe im wrong though. im not a vet
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:53 pm to UnluckyTiger
Can’t believe you aren’t giving us scoop on where this stands, baw
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:04 pm to PoppaD
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I love the Moody center and I'm glad Woodward has been around to tour it. The live calendar has stayed full and it could be that way in Baton Rouge also,
This would be the biggest red flag for me as a private investor. Baton Rouge is stone cold dead as concert tour stop. With the exception of a few one off Tiger Stadium shows, its been that way since Beaver Productions was a thing. A new venue would drive the interest of course, but it wont just happen. There needs to be a strong marketing/promotions arm setup well before the venue opens in order to hit the ground running.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:10 pm to Basura Blanco
This is the job of the private equity firm. They would handle marketing, concerts, etc. since they receive the revenue from it.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:19 pm to Ampipe96
During CKM's PC today, she said she had 2 questions...at this time... 1) what happens to the old PMAC; she needs to be able to practice every day in the new facility. With other events to be scheduled, 2) will she have daily access to it? She was also asked, laughingly, if the new facility should be named the KMAC? Her answer as she was walking out :"Well, I'm not paying for it".
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:24 pm to Keltic Tiger
This morning Jordy mentioned that he heard that they may keep the PMAC for gymnastics, and would use it as a practice facility for basketball, among other sports. Then there'd be a corridor that'd connect to this new facility.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 4:31 pm to Keltic Tiger
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she needs to be able to practice every day in the new facility
She does not need to practice daily at the new arena. Just like she does not practice daily in the main part of the PMAC now. Just like football doesn’t practice inside Tiger Stadium daily.
Once the new arena is built and the pmac torn down they’ll actually be able to easily add on to the back of the current practice facility and give the coaches whatever they want at relatively low cost and really not take up much space. (Training rooms, new offices, basketball only weight room, etc)
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