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War on Plastic Bag Use Seems to Have Backfired
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:09 am
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:09 am
Everything Dems touch gets worse.
The statewide ban on single-use carryout bags prohibits most grocery stores, large retail stores with a pharmacy, and convenience stores that sell food and alcoholic beverages from providing their customers with bags designed for a single use only, unless those bags are made with recycled paper. Instead, these stores generally must provide customers recycled paper bags or certified reusable grocery bags and must charge their customers at least 10 cents for each bag.
Steve Milloy
@JunkScience
Another green policy backfire:
California's plastic bag tax has increased the weight plastic bags thrown away by almost 30%.
Since bag taxes were enacted, plastic bags have been made thicker to qualify as being "reusable."
But consumers discard them anyway.
So Californians are being taxed to create more plastic waste.
@latimes
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According to a report by the consumer advocacy group CALPIRG, 157,385 tons of plastic bag waste was discarded in California the year the law was passed. By 2022, however, the tonnage of discarded plastic bags had skyrocketed to 231,072 — a 47% jump. LINK
The statewide ban on single-use carryout bags prohibits most grocery stores, large retail stores with a pharmacy, and convenience stores that sell food and alcoholic beverages from providing their customers with bags designed for a single use only, unless those bags are made with recycled paper. Instead, these stores generally must provide customers recycled paper bags or certified reusable grocery bags and must charge their customers at least 10 cents for each bag.
Steve Milloy
@JunkScience
Another green policy backfire:
California's plastic bag tax has increased the weight plastic bags thrown away by almost 30%.
Since bag taxes were enacted, plastic bags have been made thicker to qualify as being "reusable."
But consumers discard them anyway.
So Californians are being taxed to create more plastic waste.
@latimes
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Follow
According to a report by the consumer advocacy group CALPIRG, 157,385 tons of plastic bag waste was discarded in California the year the law was passed. By 2022, however, the tonnage of discarded plastic bags had skyrocketed to 231,072 — a 47% jump. LINK
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Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:12 am to Jbird
This shite tends to fall into one of a few categories-
1. “We’re making a difference!”, even though a difference can be positive or negative
2. They are attempting to punish people making plastic bags because they aren’t getting enough kickbacks
3. They have favored people making “reusable” bags and want to stir up money for them so that it filters back to the people who pushed this shite
1. “We’re making a difference!”, even though a difference can be positive or negative
2. They are attempting to punish people making plastic bags because they aren’t getting enough kickbacks
3. They have favored people making “reusable” bags and want to stir up money for them so that it filters back to the people who pushed this shite
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:12 am to Jbird
Yet another example of people that have never done anything in the real world pushing their fairy tale policies that ultimately fail...
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:13 am to Jbird
It's almost like the left doesn't understand human nature...
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:15 am to Jbird
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single-use carryout bags
I hang on to grocery store bags. Use them in bathroom waste bins. In liberal Utopialand, now I've got to go out and buy a roll of bathroom bin bags rather than repurpose existing plastic bags I'd otherwise have on hand.
Liberal feel good policies never account for consumer behavior that their policies alter. It's all about the surface level feels.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:15 am to Laugh More
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It's almost like the left doesn't understand human nature...
That’s 50-50…
They understand it at times but also think they should be able to force people to stay where they want them to be in order to not dodge stupid policies.
Cali does all kinds of dumb shite and they get pissed when people leave, attempting to send them tax bills for time periods where they didn’t live in the state under tortured logic.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:27 am to Jbird
Should have stayed with paper bags. Growing up we always recycled them. Book covers for school, garbage bags, etc.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:35 am to Deek
Hell, I am so old I remember when it was terrible to have paper bags in grocery stores cause it was destroying the trees in the forest. Now we cut down the trees and ship them to China so they can make plywood and cardboard and then ship back the manufactured products to us. Makes a lot of sense to me, NOT.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:40 am to Jbird
Designed to fail. Like ALL Dim-WEF mandates that "save" da planet.
These policies are about mockery and contempt of the serfs.
Just a petty spiteful law / way intended as joke (at the serfs' expense. They laugh at us a thousand different ways, bleeding us by a thousand different cuts.
These policies are about mockery and contempt of the serfs.
Just a petty spiteful law / way intended as joke (at the serfs' expense. They laugh at us a thousand different ways, bleeding us by a thousand different cuts.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:41 am to Jbird
Plastic bags are never single use. Everyone one I receive from a store always gets used as a trash bag in some form or fashion.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:42 am to teke184
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2. They are attempting to punish people
Yup.
(for "over-populating" their planet and using up their resources.)
#Sociopaths-in-Charge
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:42 am to Blizzard of Chizz
Which means they are more useful than your average Dem voter.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:44 am to Jbird
They went to plastic to save the trees.
Now they aren’t saving money.
Now they aren’t saving money.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:45 am to Jbird
NY did much the same thing. It created horrible waste, while the original "single use" plastic bags were highly efficient and cost effective. They used to be very good for trash and garbage pail liners that paper is generally useless for. Now I buy tall kitchen bags as a replacement.
Virtue signaling is often expensive to the point of stupid.
Virtue signaling is often expensive to the point of stupid.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:48 am to Jbird
We reuse them. I make my son use them to scoop the cat boxes and get the dog shite. I'm not forking over 10 cents per bag for nothing. 
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:50 am to Jbird
I can take my groceries, all packaged in 100% plastic packaging, and place them in a recycled paper bag.
There. I saved the planet!
There. I saved the planet!
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:50 am to Jbird
Most people are frugal enough to save and reuse single use grocery bags and have these things hanging in their house somewhere.
When people force people to do things is when people don't do the right things. It isn't the land of the free when the government keeps banning people's free will.
When people force people to do things is when people don't do the right things. It isn't the land of the free when the government keeps banning people's free will.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:52 am to Jbird
Having spent much time observing the thought process of the mushy American mind, I will say that none of them ever get to the results. It’s about the intention. Even if given incontrovertible proof that their good intentions resulted in unintended consequences that made the problem worse, they wouldn’t care. And they won’t be alert or engaged enough to ever read or learn about it. They just go though life with this kind of bland low- information perspective and if cornered with proof that they are making something they profess to care about worse, they lash out and tell you you are horrible for popping their magical little bubble.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:53 am to Deek
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Should have stayed with paper bags.
Growing up we always recycled them. Book covers for school, garbage bags, etc.
Made too much sense. Using & recycling natural tree-pulp was a no-brainer (But made no $$$ for DuPont, Big Oil. Guaranteed a plastics-strewn earth.)
The sooner we all realize THE WEF-Davos-Dim Controllers (and their "Think-Tanks") create ALL THE Bogus narratives, ALL the Wars, ALL the Outrage du Jours...are THE Polluters, THE Colonizers, THE Policy-Makers of Insanity, THE Slave-Owners, and THE Liars who've created this entire Mess...
...the sooner the tar & feathering and pitchforks & torches make their timely and proper comeback.
Posted on 2/14/24 at 10:55 am to Jbird
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must charge their customers at least 10 cents for each bag.
That's a lie, they don't actually have to.
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Since bag taxes were enacted, plastic bags have been made thicker to qualify as being "reusable."
That happened at a store I go to, they wanted to give me thicker bags and charge me 10¢. I'm already up to my eyeballs in plastic grocery bags in my kitchen, so I said frick it, now I use a couple of canvas totes for my groceries. It's really no big deal, I should have switched long ago.
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