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re: DAT: 2023-2024 Off Season Thread
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:01 am to High C
Posted on 12/2/23 at 3:01 am to High C
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Astros Sign Kervin Castro To Minor League Deal
MLB Trade Rumors link
Game. Changer.
Astros front office putting in the over time that matters.
Posted on 12/2/23 at 1:04 pm to Floating Change Up
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[Rome] Verlander, in particular, remains very vocal about the value Maldonado provides and how comfortable he is throwing to him...Last season, people inside the Astros’ clubhouse pointed to Diaz’s pregame preparation and game planning as two areas he needed to improve
Posted on 12/3/23 at 8:54 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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The #Astros have no interest in trading 3B Alex Bregman, but have privately resigned to losing him in free agency in a year, per @BNightengale The Astros are realizing it may take $300M to keep him. The money is most likely for Jose Altuve, so he can be an “Astro for life.”
Altuve is going to end up taking a below market deal out of his desire to stay here. It's the only way Uncle Pennybags opens up the purse strings.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:37 am to Lsuhoohoo
Astros Interested in Tucker Barnhart
Not a bad option as a backup, his Savant page doesn't have him grading out that great defensively but obviously that's still probably tenfold better than the previous lump that was back there.
Also, Cardinals are listening in on Tyler O'Neill. 2 years until he gets to free agency, injured and pretty bad the last two years but legit RH power. Would prefer to add a LHH I think but if the price is right it's an interesting option for LF.
Not a bad option as a backup, his Savant page doesn't have him grading out that great defensively but obviously that's still probably tenfold better than the previous lump that was back there.
Also, Cardinals are listening in on Tyler O'Neill. 2 years until he gets to free agency, injured and pretty bad the last two years but legit RH power. Would prefer to add a LHH I think but if the price is right it's an interesting option for LF.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:54 am to TigerFan91
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an interesting option for LF.
Is Teoscar out of our price range?
I assumed so, but I haven't really heard any rumors on him and we obviously have some history
Posted on 12/4/23 at 10:59 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Altuve is going to end up taking a below market deal
Regardless of the Tuve deal, I don't think Bregman is in their plans moving forward
There's no obvious replacement for him at 3B to my knowledge, but there's better bang for the buck out there than watching him try to force pull everything
And it pains me to say that, but he's got his championships and is chasing a contract
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:00 am to wahoocs
It would seem like he is, I'd imagine he could fetch 15-18 mil on the market for multiple years?
O'Neill is going to earn 5.5 mil next year I thought I read.
O'Neill is going to earn 5.5 mil next year I thought I read.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:05 am to wahoocs
I assume Bregman plays out his year and brings the compensatory draft pick since we have no replacement yet.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:22 am to wahoocs
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Is Teoscar out of our price range?
Does he expect financial compensation for his services?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 11:57 am to Lsuhoohoo
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Does he expect financial compensation for his services?
And I get that, but I'm sure Crane could come up with a list of paid guys that didn't produce a damn thing
JV for 2 years, Brantley too, just off the top of my head
I laugh at Cohen and every other owner that pays the Ohtanis, Trouts, and Judges
Those teams never win in the end
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:11 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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The #Astros have no interest in trading 3B Alex Bregman, but have privately resigned to losing him in free agency in a year, per @BNightengale The Astros are realizing it may take $300M to keep him.
Just going to assume that’s 10 years at an AAV of $30 million. His age 40 season will be the last year of the deal. That’s rough.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 12:26 pm to wahoocs
I'm at a point of frustration with Crane. I wouldn't call him cheap, he has spent money, he's made trades, taken on short term payroll. Rather I'd call him specifically frugal. There's certain money he's just not going to spend.
I mean you can't hate the guy we've won 2 WS, been to 4, 7 straight ALCS. We've won at an elite level. But you start to realize the long term limitations of his strategy. We're never going to be in the running for top free agents. We're never going to retain our home grown talent unless they sign below market extensions for 5-6 years where Crane feels like he's buying a bargain.
If you're continuing to let top talent walk away while not shopping the market for free agents, you have to continually be able to restock. To this point, Tucker and Pena have filled the holes of Springer and Correa. Letting JV walk away didn't work and cost us Tuckers replacement and possibly Abreus replacement at 1st. Our farm system is poor. We don't have a Bregman replacement. We don't have a Tucker replacement. It feels like the golden era is going to come to a close, we'll waste most of the next decade on another farm system rebuild in hopes the following decade will bring a new golden era.
I mean you can't hate the guy we've won 2 WS, been to 4, 7 straight ALCS. We've won at an elite level. But you start to realize the long term limitations of his strategy. We're never going to be in the running for top free agents. We're never going to retain our home grown talent unless they sign below market extensions for 5-6 years where Crane feels like he's buying a bargain.
If you're continuing to let top talent walk away while not shopping the market for free agents, you have to continually be able to restock. To this point, Tucker and Pena have filled the holes of Springer and Correa. Letting JV walk away didn't work and cost us Tuckers replacement and possibly Abreus replacement at 1st. Our farm system is poor. We don't have a Bregman replacement. We don't have a Tucker replacement. It feels like the golden era is going to come to a close, we'll waste most of the next decade on another farm system rebuild in hopes the following decade will bring a new golden era.
This post was edited on 12/4/23 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:31 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Worry about Crane the farther we drift away from the foundation Luhnow built.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:38 pm to Lsuhoohoo
I wish I could disagree with you
It was never in our hands
When Crane let the Ryans go, put his son in Reid's place, and started Sugarland.....
It was never in our hands
When Crane let the Ryans go, put his son in Reid's place, and started Sugarland.....
Posted on 12/4/23 at 1:50 pm to markinkaty
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If you're continuing to let top talent walk away while not shopping the market for free agents, you have to continually be able to restock.
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Worry about Crane the farther we drift away from the foundation Luhnow built.
I think Crane is spoiled by what Luhnow was able to bring in to our farm system over the years and has yet to realize that things have changed. There are no Tucker, Yordan, Framber, Javier or Pena any where on the radar.
He should have realized that replacement from within wasn't going to be tenable once we were forced to forfeit our 1st & 2nd round picks two years in a row.
Letting Bregman walk is absolutely the right move, but it doesn't do any good if you aren't willing to turn around and use that money to acquire a player that you feel can contribute more for the dollar.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:06 pm to Topo Chico
Philsophically, I like that Crane doesn't want to sign mega deals that look bad a year or two into them.
Realistically, it's not a sure thing he's going to be able to keep doing that. At a certain point, he's going to have to start keeping some of in-house guys with expiring contracts or dip into free agency.
Either way, the days of signing premier talent with 4- or 5-year deals are probably gone. He's probably going to have to bend on that stance if the Astros are going to remain a contender on a regular basis.
Realistically, it's not a sure thing he's going to be able to keep doing that. At a certain point, he's going to have to start keeping some of in-house guys with expiring contracts or dip into free agency.
Either way, the days of signing premier talent with 4- or 5-year deals are probably gone. He's probably going to have to bend on that stance if the Astros are going to remain a contender on a regular basis.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:24 pm to Domeskeller
The bigger problem is we don’t have 23-25 year old worth doing that in my opinion. I still want no part of a 10 year deal for a 31 year old. Tucker is the closest to that. Don’t want to be a prisoner of the moment in one bad postseason but I dunno, and he’s a corner OF. Not at a premium position value wise
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:33 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Tucker, to me, is the first of the crop that's walked/or going to walk that I'd mega extend and feel okay about it. He's been durable and I think his game ages well in his mid 30's.
Springer, Correa, Breg I'm all perfectly content with them having walked or about to walk based on their age at the time of free agency or injury history. Verlander I was fine with letting him walk, and was fine with the trade to get him back at the salary. The prospect loss kind of hurt but I've grown to not become attached to prospects over a more sure thing and JV was really good down the stretch last year. Now if JV throws up a 4.25-4.50 ERA I'll admit to being on the wrong side of that opinion because I do believe that Gilbert can be a solid major leaguer.
Springer, Correa, Breg I'm all perfectly content with them having walked or about to walk based on their age at the time of free agency or injury history. Verlander I was fine with letting him walk, and was fine with the trade to get him back at the salary. The prospect loss kind of hurt but I've grown to not become attached to prospects over a more sure thing and JV was really good down the stretch last year. Now if JV throws up a 4.25-4.50 ERA I'll admit to being on the wrong side of that opinion because I do believe that Gilbert can be a solid major leaguer.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:43 pm to Domeskeller
He will sell the team before he changes.
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