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Is Loneliness A Disease?
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:42 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:42 am
Gov health org
Studies suggest people are becoming so isolated from other people that it is lowering life end expectancy rates.
Could this be true? Maybe the OT could increase their social circle and save lives.
Studies suggest people are becoming so isolated from other people that it is lowering life end expectancy rates.
Could this be true? Maybe the OT could increase their social circle and save lives.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 1:44 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:46 am to Motownsix
Perhaps a symptom of a disease. Depression is the first thing that comes to mind here for me. Although I have zero “advanced” knowledge or expertise in the area. Anyhow, loneliness, or maybe “withdrawal” it might also be considered, if it’s connected to some other condition such as depression, I’d say that’s a pretty serious situation to be addressed sooner than later.
**And yes I do realize that I answered questions that weren’t even asked.
**And yes I do realize that I answered questions that weren’t even asked.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 1:48 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 1:54 am to davyjones
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Perhaps a symptom of a disease. Depression is the first thing that comes to mind here for me. Although I have zero “advanced” knowledge or expertise in the area. Anyhow, loneliness, or maybe “withdrawal” it might also be considered, if it’s connected to some other condition such as depression, I’d say that’s a pretty serious situation to be addressed sooner than later. **And yes I do realize that I answered questions that weren’t even asked
Very insightful, but I would suggest that often enough loneliness brings upon depression rather than loneliness being a symptom of depression. Maybe a chicken or the egg conversation sure. I’m just suggesting lots of mentally healthy people find themselves alone in the world by a myriad of causes.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 1:57 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:01 am to Motownsix
I can see it from that angle, good point. In any case, it’s a terrible situation to find oneself in, if it persists. I hope the best for anyone involved.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:19 am to Motownsix
When I've been homeless, loneliness was the worst aspect. It's not a pathology but it damn sure worsens your health. I have no doubt that loneliness induced by covid was a serious health burden, globally.
I've never been so thankful to be around other people as when I was homeless.
Things like this message board can help a bit, but humans need person to person contact. You have to have someone to work with, get coffee with, exercise with, or whatever. You need things like spontaneous conversation. Those needs can't be met in a virtual environment.
I remember once I was looking for some general purpose cleaner to wipe down a cheap tarp I'd laid down on my tent floor. I stood there in Walmart until a couple employees noticed me, just so I could ask them if they had a certain type, all so I could have a moment of conversation and eye contact with real humans. They didn't have the cleaner, I thanked them for the help, and moved on. That little bit of contact felt good.
Humans need other humans as a general rule.
Otherwise you get this:
I've never been so thankful to be around other people as when I was homeless.
Things like this message board can help a bit, but humans need person to person contact. You have to have someone to work with, get coffee with, exercise with, or whatever. You need things like spontaneous conversation. Those needs can't be met in a virtual environment.
I remember once I was looking for some general purpose cleaner to wipe down a cheap tarp I'd laid down on my tent floor. I stood there in Walmart until a couple employees noticed me, just so I could ask them if they had a certain type, all so I could have a moment of conversation and eye contact with real humans. They didn't have the cleaner, I thanked them for the help, and moved on. That little bit of contact felt good.
Humans need other humans as a general rule.
Otherwise you get this:
Posted on 10/22/23 at 2:29 am to Motownsix
Loneliness isn’t a disease. It’s an outlook. A state of mind.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 3:38 am to MississippiTigerGirl
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Loneliness isn’t a disease. It’s an outlook. A state of mind.
It all depends on the terms you are defining “loneliness” in.
On one hand, it can be a “factual” definition of simply not having companions. On the other hand, it can also attach a quality of longing for companionship.
From a psychological perspective, loneliness can entail an actual condition where a person believes that their “needs” are not being met to an adequate level - be it quality or quantity. In that case it’s a form of mental disorder or disease
It sounds like you are saying that loneliness is a “choice”. For people who are mentally healthy, that is often true. They can make a “simple” decision to go out more, join a bowling league, volunteer, etc. in terms of quality, they can adopt the “if you can’t be with the one you love,
love the one they’re with” mantra.
For people with other mental conditions…like depression,
Anxiety or PTSD….doing that isn’t quite as easy.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:07 am to Motownsix
I’m dying a little bit every day from it. Really believe that I won’t make it another year. Most days I feel like I’ve had enough and am ready to go that night.
But I’m up today and probably will make it through the day. I keep trying.
But I’m up today and probably will make it through the day. I keep trying.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 4:10 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 4:40 am to Bigfishchoupique
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I’m dying a little bit every day from it. Really believe that I won’t make it another year. Most days I feel like I’ve had enough and am ready to go that night.
bfc... this makes me so sad. I know I don't 'know you' know you, but I genuinely hope that it gets better for you.
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But I’m up today and probably will make it through the day. I keep trying.
yep, keep going friend.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:07 am to tigernurse
Thanks Nurse. Im just lonesome. Most of my old fishing and hunting friends have died or can’t do anything anymore. Luckily even with my pains I get around pretty good.
I really need to find a “ good “ lady friend. But it is challenging. I don’t put myself in social circles where I meet them.
The last time I ate a meal with someone was with Armymann50 about two years ago We rode the Waverunner’s to some hamburger place in the swamp.
Might go ride down to Golden Meadow / Fourchon / Grand Isle today to look up some folks. Thanks again.
I really need to find a “ good “ lady friend. But it is challenging. I don’t put myself in social circles where I meet them.
The last time I ate a meal with someone was with Armymann50 about two years ago We rode the Waverunner’s to some hamburger place in the swamp.
Might go ride down to Golden Meadow / Fourchon / Grand Isle today to look up some folks. Thanks again.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 5:13 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:15 am to Bigfishchoupique
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Thanks Nurse. Im just lonesome. Most of my old fishing and hunting friends have died or can’t do anything anymore. I really need to find a “ good “ lady friend. But it is challenging. I don’t put myself in social circles where I meet them.
not to make you feel even older, because I am not a spring chicken myself, but this is the case for my elderly father. He is 82 and widowed twice now. he found a local group of ppl in his age group who play ping pong, of all things, every Mon-Wed-Fri and that and church are his only social outlets.
I'd love to move out of West tn, but I'd never leave my dad.
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Might go ride down to Golden Meadow / Fourchon / Grand Isle today to look up some folks. Thanks again.
Yessir! make the drive!
Posted on 10/22/23 at 5:18 am to Bigfishchoupique
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I don’t put myself in social circles where I meet them.
I think this is one of the components of the loneliness epidemic. The loss of social and civic organizations that used to draw people together.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:29 am to Motownsix
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Studies suggest people are becoming so isolated from other people that it is lowering life end expectancy rates.
Could this be true?
I think it depends on the person. Dealing with people nowadays makes me want to jump off a cliff. When I am alone, I am peaceful. But most people want or need to be social.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 6:42 am to MississippiTigerGirl
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Loneliness isn’t a disease. It’s an outlook. A state of mind.
I disagree about state of mind. I had an entire grade turn against me when I was younger. There's no state of mind for a 10 year old that gets isolated like that. All because some dumbass kid spread the rumor psoriasis was a communicable disease.
This post was edited on 10/22/23 at 6:43 am
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:09 am to Motownsix
Loneliness is a mindset. I have always been a loner and love it. You have to cultivate a healthy relationship with yourself though. People who are self loathing look for external stimulation to run away from the things that they hate about themselves. It’s all about embracing your light and shadow.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:11 am to Motownsix
Maybe young people should put their phones down a bit each day.
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:16 am to Motownsix
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people are becoming so isolated from other people that it is lowering life end expectancy
Quarantine is in tha house....
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:17 am to Motownsix
Ok
This post was edited on 7/7/24 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 10/22/23 at 8:18 am to Jcorye1
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I disagree about state of mind. I had an entire grade turn against me when I was younger. There's no state of mind for a 10 year old that gets isolated like that. All because some dumbass kid spread the rumor psoriasis was a communicable disease.
Kids are fricking mean.
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