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I heard someone say yesterday that grunge only had a 5 year run…
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:17 am
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:17 am
I argued with them, but the more I think about it….I mean, ‘92 through ‘97?? (Yes I know the Seattle movement started before ‘92, but it didn’t get “big” until ‘91 or ‘92….right?) Nu Metal was starting to take over at that point (1997)…crazy thing to think about for those of us who lived through it….sure seemed like grunge ruined music for longer than 5 years.
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Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:39 am to themetalreb
There really was no such thing as "Grunge". It was the record company suits desperate for a product to sell who latched onto the label to scoop all the Seattle-based (or at least influenced) heavy music that was replacing "hair metal" as the decade changed.
Frankly, GNR is the bridge from so-called "hair metal" to so-called "grunge" from a style standpoint.
Frankly, GNR is the bridge from so-called "hair metal" to so-called "grunge" from a style standpoint.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 8:51 am to themetalreb
I always look at the grunge era as time of consequence of the Big 4.
Nirvana-88-94
Alice In Chains- 88-96
Soundgarden-87-96
Pearl Jam -Ten- Vitalogy. So basically the greatness of “grunge” was done by 1997.
Nirvana-88-94
Alice In Chains- 88-96
Soundgarden-87-96
Pearl Jam -Ten- Vitalogy. So basically the greatness of “grunge” was done by 1997.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 9:46 am to themetalreb
I don't really think it even lasted 5. Most of that centered around Pearl Jam, Nirvana and a few other Seattle groups... most who didn't like the term. It had some feet while Vedder and Pearl Jam were still high off 10, but then they went into anti-marketing mode and stopped sucking off Neil Young at every opportunity. When Cobain died in 94, I think most of the wind was out of those sails. A lot of those bands went on to great careers, but I didn't hear "grunge" associated with them as much as the 90s wound on.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 12:03 pm to themetalreb
That sounds about right. By '97, new "grunge" music didn't really exist. The alternative rock scene shifted to more post-grunge and nu-metal into the 00's.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:52 pm to themetalreb
Agree for the most part. It’s bizarre how widespread its influence was, for example, skimming through Gumbo yearbooks during that time.
Meh. Imo more of a self correction or reboot after the silliness of the hair metal years.
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sure seemed like grunge ruined music
Meh. Imo more of a self correction or reboot after the silliness of the hair metal years.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 1:53 pm to Ace Midnight
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Frankly, GNR is the bridge from so-called "hair metal" to so-called "grunge" from a style standpoint.
You misspelled Alice In Chains.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 2:28 pm to Havoc
This discussion is missing Stone Temple Pilots as well as a few earlier groups that weren't as "mainstream" such as Mother Love Bone.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 3:09 pm to Ace Midnight
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GNR is the bridge from so-called "hair metal" to so-called "grunge" from a style standpoint.
No, not at all. GNR was GNR as Metallica was Metallica. Neither of those two bridged anything to grunge. If anything, they survived it.
The bridge was probably Facelift and Ritual de lo Habitual due to their popularity and in a sense you couldn't exactly place a label on them. Is it metal? Is it alternative? Is it post-punk? Is it goth? what did those two have in common? Dave Jerden. I don't consider Jane's grunge but they were not the typical LA hair band either. They were something different. Even Soundgarden was making some noise by 1990. They couldn't figure out where to play Soundgarden or AIC videos. Headbangers ball or 120 Minutes so they did both.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 4:00 pm to themetalreb
That sounds about right. Soundgarden breaking up was the final straw. By that time Nirvana was gone, AIC was in limbo due to Layne's drug issues, and Pearl Jam stopped making videos and putting out singles. I think even second rate bands like Bush and Silverchair had gone away by that point
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:30 pm to Havoc
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Imo more of a self correction or reboot after the silliness of the hair metal years.
There sure is a lot of great music in all that silliness.
As to the original question, yeah, 91-96 was about it.
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 5:48 pm to Hetfield
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So basically the greatness of “grunge” was done by 1997.
Yep, Grunge just couldn't survive the competition from the juggernaut that was 3rd wave ska.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 6:24 pm to themetalreb
Grunge and heroin hit together... Destroyed so much greatness. I was just listening to Mad Season and thinking about if Layne were still around, he'd be singing some really good blues.
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:06 pm to themetalreb
quote:Maybe fornthe rest of the country..
I mean, ‘92 through ‘97??
That scene had been around since the 80s. And put in a lot of work.
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Nu Metal was starting to take over at that point (1997)…crazy thing to think about for those of us who financially suffered through it
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:12 pm to Cdawg
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No, not at all. GNR was GNR as Metallica was Metallica. Neither of those two bridged anything to grunge. If anything, they survived it.
Those 2 bands also put out massive commercial records that had on par production, and similar song structures that came with Nirvana's Nevermind.
Had those records came out a year or 2 after, I don't think they would matter as much. So there is some credibility that came with being successfully non-influenced by something that would eventually change everything else.
I feel that helped them flourish during that time, especially Metallica
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:26 pm to SEClint
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financially suffered
I personally suffered financially from grunge…I was playing in a “rock” band full time during that time, and let’s just say we weren’t playing grunge…that band eventually broke up, after 20 years, in 1998. (I played with them from ‘93 - ‘98).
This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:26 pm to LSUDVM1999
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This discussion is missing Stone Temple Pilots
Guess it depends on how grunge is defined, but I personally wouldn’t include STP in that category
Posted on 8/7/23 at 7:57 pm to themetalreb
Nu Metal forced mtv to jump the shark and now we have what we have
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:02 am to SEClint
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Nu Metal forced mtv to jump the shark and now we have what we have
Nu metal, boy bands, and Britney/Christina breathed new life into MTV. Once those groups were gone, MTV was indistinguishable from 106&Park. That's when it died.
Posted on 8/8/23 at 7:21 am to Havoc
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Frankly, GNR is the bridge from so-called "hair metal" to so-called "grunge" from a style standpoint.
You misspelled Alice In Chains.
You misspelled Mother Love Bone
AIC was full on the start of Grunge
In my humble grunge loving opinion
This post was edited on 8/8/23 at 7:37 am
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