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USSC rules that government cannot make a profit from seized property.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:38 am
A big win for property rights in the USA.
NBC News
NBC News
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WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled in favor of a 94-year-old woman over her claim that a Minnesota county violated the Constitution by keeping a $25,000 profit when it sold her home in a tax foreclosure sale.
The court concluded unanimously that Geraldine Tyler can pursue her argument that Hennepin County's decision to keep the surplus violated the takings clause of the Constitution’s Fifth Amendment, which requires that the government pay compensation when property is taken.
Tyler’s home in Hennepin County, which includes the city of Minneapolis, was seized because she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees. But the county sold the home for $40,000 and kept all the proceeds.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:40 am to HubbaBubba
Insane this had to get to the supreme court. Seems like common sense
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:41 am to HubbaBubba
Good. This should be something that people all along the political spectrum can agree with. Theft under the cover of law is still theft.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:45 am to HubbaBubba
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was seized because she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees. But the county sold the home for $40,000 and kept all the proceeds.
Soulless psychopaths. Holy shite.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to HubbaBubba
I pray this applies to all types of gooooooooooooooooberment seizures. Nonsense when people have spend a lot of money to prove their money is legally acquired.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to jcaz
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It’s SCOTUS not USSC
cite me the law for that inefficiency (2 more letters)
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:46 am to HailToTheChiz
quote:
Insane this had to get to the supreme court. Seems like common sense
exactly
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:48 am to SlowFlowPro
It still blows my mind that you can pay cash for property, but if you fail to “pay the taxes” you lose the land that you own.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:49 am to Timeoday
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I pray this applies to all types of gooooooooooooooooberment seizures.
Except drugs. They should sell the drugs to the dumb democrats (with a little extra lethal level of fentanyl) and then use the proceeds to pay on the debt. Two birds with one stoned.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:49 am to jcaz
quote:Didn't want to run out of space in title, but glad to see you figured it out in spite of my shortening the acronym.
It’s SCOTUS not USSC
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Most of that was fines and interest, not the actual tax. Let's not celebrate her. She was a deadbeat taxpayer. She shouldn't have lost her profit in the property, but she ignored every attempt to settle the bill and allowed it to go on for years before the property was finally seized by the court.
she owed $15,000 in taxes and fees.
This post was edited on 5/26/23 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:36 am to HubbaBubba
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She was a deadbeat taxpayer
She's 94 years-old - almost certainly on a fixed income - hard to understand how communities can donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to go-fund-me for all kinds of stuff but no one stepped forward for this - there's never enough money to satisfy the government. Pure theft.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:54 am to HubbaBubba
So the house was sold for $40,000, how much was it actually worth? Tax sales on real property tend to be really shady. This may have been a $175,000 house sold for $40,000 in order to pay a $15,000 bill.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:56 am to HubbaBubba
How does this work for the See Eye Aye and their drug and other black ops where they have a merchant operation? Isn't that how they have additional non-appropriated funding?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:08 am to roadkill
quote:In Texas, after age 65 you can opt to not pay property taxes, and they'll take it out of the estate when you pass away.
She's 94 years-old - almost certainly on a fixed income - hard to understand how communities can donate hundreds of thousands of dollars to go-fund-me for all kinds of stuff but no one stepped forward for this - there's never enough money to satisfy the government. Pure theft.
Of course, they also charge interest, which accrues over the entire time. Bitches.
At the will reading I can hear the attorneys, "And I bequeath the house to my rotten son, Jimmy, who never called, never sent a birthday card or attended family gatherings."
Jimmy - (pointing his finger at his two brothers and a sister) "Ha! Suck it losers!"
Attorney - "While the value of the property is currently estimated at $1.2 million, there is an outstanding loan amount on the property of $182,000..."
Jimmy - "Hey, that's cool. I'll sell the house and be rolling in dough. Y'all can suck it!"
Attorney - "...and a tax lien of $1.1 million."
"The rest of the estate was rolled up into a non-revocable, tax-exempt trust invested in life-insurance policies with non-taxable payout receipts of $5 million each to Bob, Eddie and Sarah, the other three heirs."
Jimmy - "What the frick?"
Everyone else, "Suck it, Jimmy"
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:11 am to HubbaBubba
Will it impact civil forfeiture theft
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:13 am to thelawnwranglers
quote:Doubtful, but I bet someone will try to use this ruling against it, soon.
Will it impact civil forfeiture theft
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:15 am to jcaz
quote:
It’s SCOTUS not USSC
This actually bothered you enough to make a post about it?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:20 am to HubbaBubba
Replying to @billybinion
Geraldine is far from the only victim. The stories are nauseating.
At 76 years old, Bennie Coleman lost his DC home over a $134 bill. The gov't sold the $197,000 house & kept the profit.
For months, Bennie slept on the porch—with dementia—thinking he'd locked himself out.
Replying to @billybinion
Then there's Tawanda Hall, who fell $900 behind on a property-tax payment plan for her Michigan home. After penalties, she owed $22,642.
The gov't seized her $300,000 house, sold it, and kept the profit.
The surplus totaled $286,000. This is not a joke.
Geraldine is far from the only victim. The stories are nauseating.
At 76 years old, Bennie Coleman lost his DC home over a $134 bill. The gov't sold the $197,000 house & kept the profit.
For months, Bennie slept on the porch—with dementia—thinking he'd locked himself out.
Replying to @billybinion
Then there's Tawanda Hall, who fell $900 behind on a property-tax payment plan for her Michigan home. After penalties, she owed $22,642.
The gov't seized her $300,000 house, sold it, and kept the profit.
The surplus totaled $286,000. This is not a joke.
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