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Lee vs. Stafford: The Comparison

Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:38 pm
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:38 pm
These are purely statistics and is an arguement I bring up to Lee-Haters consistantly. Stafford, in my opinion, is the best QB in the SEC and runs a comparable offense to LSU and would be a fair comparison. Here are some stats from each Lee and Stafford's freshman seasons.

Stafford - True Freshman
- 4 losses - Kentucky, Florida, Vandy & Tennessee (unranked Vandy & Kentucky)

- 52.7% completions
- 134.5 yards per game
- 108.99 effeciency rating
- 7 TD & 13 INT (0.5 : 1 TD to INT Ratio)
* Georgia had the #8 ranked total defense in the NCAA

Lee - Redshirt Freshman
- 3 losses - Florida, Georgia & Alabama (all in the BCS top 10)

- 53.4% completions
- 178.7 yards per game
- 120.6 effeciency rating
- 13 TD & 14 INT (0.9 : 1 TD to INT Ratio)
* LSU has the #24 ranked total defense in the NCAA (Bama #4, UF #14 & UGA #28)

It should be noted that UGA had Lumpkin, Ware & Brown as a 3 man rotation at RB, with Lumpkin getting the bulk of the load. Ironically this is very similar to the current LSU RB system.

My point is that so many fans are up-in-arms about the QB situation when they should be patient. I believe most coaches try to have a great team every year, but realistically they should prepare themselves for a cycle of 3-4 year runs.

After the 2003 Championship we were left with Marcus Randall and redshirt-freshman JaMarcus Russell. And that season wasn't much better than this year.
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:39 pm to
compare Stafford to JR 3 year progression and see if Stafford is the person we really want Lee to evolve into.
Posted by TheDoc
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99297 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:40 pm to
funny thing is: stafford really isn't that good either...
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

compare Stafford to JR 3 year progression and see if Stafford is the person we really want Lee to evolve into


Are you saying Stafford isn't a good QB? Don't compare JR to Stafford...JR is in the NFL...you people amaze me.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

Are you saying Stafford isn't a good QB?


I am.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7362 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:42 pm to
Stafford will be the first QB taken if he goes into the draft this year.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138159 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Are you saying Stafford isn't a good QB?




I am.
NFL General Managers disagree
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

I am.


Name a good SEC QB?

Don't give me some Big 12 QB when all of their defenses are terrible. And don't say that their defenses are terrible because the QBs are so good.
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3080 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:44 pm to
I don't think it's really JL that most people have the problem with, he is a RS fresman. Most people have a problem with the way Les has handled the QB situation. Most would have liked to have seen more JJ is all....
Posted by Malaysian Tiger
Manila
Member since May 2008
4732 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:45 pm to
Perilloux
Jackson State 7-3
174-276 63%
2199 yds. 219.9 yds. per game
19 TD's
12 Int's
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:46 pm to
Stafford will likely be a top draft pick this year. He has loads of talent around him this year similar to JR. Compare a top talent NFL prospect to another and tell me in their 3 year tally of stats who would be a better chart for Lee to emulate. Stafford or Russell.
Posted by Steauxn
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Dec 2007
19277 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:46 pm to
Stafford has an unbelievable arm. thats about it.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:46 pm to
I just don't think stafford is that great.

just my opinion.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

Stafford has an unbelievable arm. thats about it.
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Most would have liked to have seen more JJ is all....


I guess that is any easy thing to say. You think a true-freshman is ready to play big time SEC football over a redshirt-freshman when you haven't seen him play in an SEC game.

I guess that is where our society is these days. People rather see Obama as the president when he has done nothing for his country over an old guy that has done everything for his country. On the basis that we need CHANGE.
Posted by Steauxn
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Dec 2007
19277 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:49 pm to
NFL coaches see a huge arm and thats it! They think they can teach him everything else. Jake Plummer ring a freakin bell!
Posted by Northwestern tiger
Long Island NY
Member since Oct 2005
23750 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:49 pm to
why do people keep comparing Lee to stafford

Satfford shown lots of improvement in his freshmen season, Lee took steps backward

Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Perilloux
Jackson State 7-3
174-276 63%
2199 yds. 219.9 yds. per game
19 TD's
12 Int's


RP is doing this with what 2 months in their offense before starting the season? If perrilloux was here, he would really be the toast of the town. Oh well hopefully, Lee, Jordan, Garrett, Sheperd, Randle or the hatchman will grab a hold of the job.
Posted by Steauxn
Philadelphia, PA
Member since Dec 2007
19277 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

You think a true-freshman is ready to play big time SEC football over a redshirt-freshman when you haven't seen him play in an SEC game.


JJ isn't one dimensional like Lee is. Tuck and run
Posted by DoubleDeuce
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2006
832 posts
Posted on 11/11/08 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

I just don't think stafford is that great.


quote:

just my opinion.


Based on what? You don't like UGA? Watch him play football and he is probably the best QB in the SEC since Eli Manning. Russell was pretty good, but Stafford probably better.
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