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re: Body Cam shows Florida man killed by Deputy with one shot.

Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:39 pm to
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:39 pm to
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This looks like suicide by cop

Exactly what it was. I've also been reading about since April, so I'm actually familiar with the facts. Dude wasn't clearing brush, at all. He was running amok in some sort of psychotic state, damaging neighbor's properties when he was confronted.
Posted by tes fou
Member since Feb 2014
846 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:41 pm to
If you go full screen on the video and stop it a few times you can see a lot more context.

The defense of the shoot will be:

1. he was a well known bad guy with a violent history.

2. in the video you can see if you pause it full screen the axe is down by his side, after being told to drop it multiple times he raises it up like he is preparing to throw it just before he is shot.

Cop certainly knew who he was dealing with, probably shouldn't have confronted the guy until the other officers that were very close behind were in position. Not the best shoot, but not as bad as some are making it out once you consider the background on the suspect.
Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:41 pm to
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imjustafatkid


You are a frickin a idiot.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
43115 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:41 pm to
I don’t know the backstory here BUT that looks bad. WTF was he gonna do to that cop from that far away with an ax? He didn’t even lunge toward the cop or anything. That cop was just itching to shoot someone.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
80891 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:42 pm to
You’d have to be pretty stupid to taunt cops like that.

Regardless, Bad shoot IMO
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
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Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:43 pm to
COMPLY OR DIE
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12175 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:45 pm to
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That officer was not in any sort of danger. He should fry for that


True and he sounded pretty nonchalant when he called in shots fired. Damn
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114774 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:46 pm to
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But in that situation you have to think about saving your life. Put the damn ax down and hands up and this is likely not a story.


Its all easy to say when you are not in the situation.

If you are outside clearing brush, minding your business and a cop comes a long, since you are not doing anything wrong your reaction isn't going to be "let me put down my ax".

Im sure the police didn't want to kill the guy. I don't know for sure, I have no idea actually, but my first thought is that the deputy hasn't been fully trained properly or lacks experience on the job? Just the idea of being on your own property doing work and a cop comes up and shoots and kills you is insane, but life is a ticking time bomb.

Anyway, this isn't the situation to blame on the person who got shot.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
151743 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
Without more information (like why the cops were called in the first place), that looks like a bad shot on the cop.

That being said, if I’m the dude and cops have guns drawn on me telling me to drop the axe, I’m dropping it and explaining what I’m doing. I’m not gonna be defiant and raise the axe up. That’s just not smart, even if you’re on your property doing nothing wrong. Put that shite down and sort out your trampled rights later (which were trampled by that cop IMO). But at least you’re alive.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
13828 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:49 pm to
Yesterday I saw a YouTube video of a cop pulling a gun on a college student picking up trash outside his apt/dorm. Nobody gets shot but what's interesting is when he calls for backup he refers to the trash grabber as a blunt object(6 min. mark) immediately putting this person in danger. Here if you want to see it.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9179 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:52 pm to
Oh look, another piece of shite trigger happy bully. Shocker
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36356 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:52 pm to
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you go full screen on the video and stop it a few times you can see a lot more context.

The defense of the shoot will be:

1. he was a well known bad guy with a violent history.

2. in the video you can see if you pause it full screen the axe is down by his side, after being told to drop it multiple times he raises it up like he is preparing to throw it just before he is shot.

Cop certainly knew who he was dealing with, probably shouldn't have confronted the guy until the other officers that were very close behind were in position. Not the best shoot, but not as bad as some are making it out once you consider the background on the suspect.



If they can show that the cop knew the background on the guy he shot and it accurately reflected his potential danger then the cop is likely to be in the relative clear.

Not that he shouldn't have been smarter about when to approach and when to shoot. It would have been better if he waited for additional cops and it is at least debatable about whether he needed to shoot.

The brutal reality is the victim being a dumb white guy instead of a dumb black guy probably keeps this mostly out of the news and the cop mostly out of trouble.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18084 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:52 pm to
Boy this thread title aged well.

Axe you once, shame on you. Axe you twice, shame on me.
Posted by Vidic
Member since Jan 2010
9179 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:54 pm to
So someone’s background should get them murdered?
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
13586 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:54 pm to
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Lots of people are pretty good at throwing axes these days. It really isn't that difficult. They'll even let you get totally wasted while you throw axes in a bar.

Classic boot licker example.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
57735 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:55 pm to
Ah yeah, because flinging an ax at a wood backdrop and hitting a moving target from 20+ yards out are comparable.
Posted by Pat Sajak
New Orleans
Member since May 2009
755 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 9:58 pm to
You’re a dumb fricking count.
Posted by AllDawg
Evans GA
Member since Jan 2014
1530 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:00 pm to
Man listen bro…. Bang dead


Cop should spend time in prison for that one the lack of an attempt to de-escalate the situation on the cops end is disturbing.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:02 pm to
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But in that situation you have to think about saving your life. Put the damn ax down and hands up and this is likely not a story.


Damn, you either did not watch the video or you are retarded.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
18084 posts
Posted on 12/11/22 at 10:07 pm to
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Ah yeah, because flinging an ax at a wood backdrop and hitting a moving target from 20+ yards out are comparable.


Firing a 9MM at a wood backdrop and hitting a moving target from 20+ yards out are respectively comparable.
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