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re: Would you ever consider buying a electric car
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:52 pm to jchamil
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:52 pm to jchamil
quote:9-10 year old Teslas are currently selling for $35k or more in some instances.
What's the resale value like on these when the battery starts getting to be 8-10 years old?
People talk about the resale value in every one of these threads, and I point out in every one of these threads how strong the value is on older Teslas out of warranty.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:54 pm to shel311
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9-10 year old Teslas are currently selling for $35k or more in some instances.
People talk about the resale value in every one of these threads, and I point out in every one of these threads how strong the value is on older Teslas out of warranty.
Is mileage a big deal on used electric cars or do people really only care about the life of the battery?
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:56 pm to pioneerbasketball
Just not practical enough yet.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:57 pm to evil cockroach
quote:$65k
However, wife (sorry, no pics) drives a van. The closest equivalent I've seen is a Tesla Y, which cost $90,000.
Another misconception with Teslas is how much they cost. They ain't cheap. An S or Y most certainly ain't cheap. But people think all Teslas are crazy expensive.
My 1st Tesla cost $40k, cheaper than the average price of a new car sold today, and yet I can't tell you how many times people would think me or my wife was legit rich or people I knew would be super confused and come right out and ask me how I could possibly afford a car that was "so expensive." And these people had new Jeep Wranglers, big pick up trucks, SUVs and I'm 100% certain some of them had vehicles that cost twice as much as mine
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:58 pm to TeddyPadillac
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:59 pm to pioneerbasketball
Yup, for the grandkids to drive around the dogs:
Posted on 11/28/22 at 1:59 pm to jchamil
quote:Mileage is probably thought of similarly as an ICE car, just gives you an idea of wear and tear.
Is mileage a big deal on used electric cars or do people really only care about the life of the battery?
Battery life is the key component. An average battery life lost long term is roughly 10%.
I can't speak to much for the oldest Teslas but newer Teslas have a battery life that is like 300-500k miles or something like that, so how many miles you rack up really isn't a factor for 99.9%.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:02 pm to TaderSalad
quote:Another misconception of new EVs, that the government can control you.
Nope. Grid isn’t sustainable and the government has already tried implementing a social score apparatus. Not gonna let them dictate when and where I can go.
The government can control a new ICE vehicle just as easily as a new EV.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:03 pm to pioneerbasketball
A couple things need to happen to make electric cars practical.
1. Embrace Nuclear, nuke plants everywhere
2. Establish charging networks
3. Standardized battery shapes and sizes, the manufactures can configure banks differently but they need to be modular and replaceable without going through the manufacture.
1. Embrace Nuclear, nuke plants everywhere
2. Establish charging networks
3. Standardized battery shapes and sizes, the manufactures can configure banks differently but they need to be modular and replaceable without going through the manufacture.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:10 pm to jchamil
If I needed a car, I would consider an EV. Right now, the two of us have three that run fine and have long since been paid for. Just don't see the logic in spending a lot upfront at this point.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:20 pm to pioneerbasketball
If I did commuting everyday, sure. I would have a gas powered car for road-trips etc.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:23 pm to SlidellCajun
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I have a problem with the fact that the batteries are limited lifespan and real expensive to replace
Sort of like an engine, right?
quote:
Is mileage a big deal on used electric cars or do people really only care about the life of the battery?
Not once you get used to it. It takes a little more forethought if you are on the road all the time or for long stretches. Most people who can get an EV have a home and put their own charger there. You charge up every night. The life of the battery is a topic because they do come with a price tag at replacement. Do people ever fret over replacing an ICE when they buy a car? Probalby not as they will move on from it before it becomes a problem.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:27 pm to pioneerbasketball
If the range, cost of ownership, and reliability gets better, I’d consider it. Especially, if they develop workable solar charging.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:30 pm to pioneerbasketball
I would but I really want mass adoption of self driving cars. It would solve so many issues. I would buy a self driving car even if not popular.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 2:46 pm to jmarto1
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Sort of like an engine, right?
Expensive is relative.
A 100 khw hour battery replacement would carry between a $10K and $16K cost, on average.
The average cost of an engine replacement is $3K to $5k.
This post was edited on 11/28/22 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:44 pm to 3nOut
quote:I'd put that on the owner, not the car.
my boss bought an extended battery tesla this spring.
my boss is in San Antonio. i'm in Temple. at the height of Gas prices this summer, i filled up my ford escape for $50 and then made it down to Brownsville. Filled up $30 3 days later and made it home.
my boss charged up in SA at his home. Stopped in Kingsville at a non-rapid charger and waited an hour. then made it down to the valley, charged his car and i had to pick him up because we were going to miss an appointment. Dropped him off at his car, went to hotel, and then we used his car to run around. after we were done each day, he dropped me off at the hotel and he went to charge again and i had to pick him up. Before he left, he rapid charged again, then had to stop in Kingsville for an hour to slow charge.
I spent $80 on gas and less than 10 minutes filling up. He spent $40 on charging, but lost 4+ hours of sitting around waiting while also depending on me to pick him up from those charging stations. Do with that what you will.
I'm pretty sure to get from San Antonio to Temple you'd typically go through Austin. Austin has a shite ton of super chargers.
You didn't specify which Tesla but let's say it's a Model 3. Long range has 358 miles. If he charged up at home with 358 miles, he should have been able to easily make the 165 mile trip without a stop.
He either could have stopped for 5-10 minutes just to top off or if he had to do lots of driving in Temple. Otherwise, he could have easily gotten from San Antonio to Temple, then not had to charge until he left to go back to SA and charged in Austin.
Honestly, none of that breakdown really makes any sense lol.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:52 pm to Salmon
I believe they'll always require minerals we can't supply without global sourcing- which means sooner or later, someone's going to be shooting someone over them.
Is the 'No blood for oil' crowd even considering that?
Probably not.
Is the 'No blood for oil' crowd even considering that?
Probably not.
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:58 pm to shel311
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Honestly, none of that breakdown really makes any sense lol.
Not in the slightest. San Antonio to Temple is a straight shot on I-35. Even if you take the 130 loop you pass directly in front of the Tesla Gigafactory which is full of chargers
Posted on 11/28/22 at 3:59 pm to pioneerbasketball
Had my Tesla Model 3 Long Range for a year now. Best car I've ever owned, and it's not close. Had Mercedes, VW, Toyota Tacoma, etc. For anyone concerned about charging, it charges in my garage for an hour every night and costs me $1 roughly.
Drove it from Knoxville to PCB multiple times. Stopped every 3 hours to piss, eat and charge it. Took 15-20 min to charge, so I walked the dog during that time. It also drove itself for 90% of the way on Autopilot, I won't buy anything else now.
Drove it from Knoxville to PCB multiple times. Stopped every 3 hours to piss, eat and charge it. Took 15-20 min to charge, so I walked the dog during that time. It also drove itself for 90% of the way on Autopilot, I won't buy anything else now.
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