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It seems that Miles is defending his coaches

Posted on 10/28/08 at 8:58 pm
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
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Posted on 10/28/08 at 8:58 pm
and absolutely throwing the players under bus. I'm sorry, but that's wrong. He needs to take the blame and allow his coaches to take the blame. The kids are trying, and are talented but don't seem to know what they are doing. How in the world is that ANYTHING BUT HORRIBLE COACHING?????!!!!!!!!!!!
This post was edited on 10/28/08 at 9:00 pm
Posted by GatorTrunk
City Point, VA via Luna, LA
Member since Jul 2008
3332 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:01 pm to
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How in the world is that ANYTHING BUT HORRIBLE COACHING?????!!!!!!!!!!!


What exactly is their scheme?
Posted by booga
used to be maui
Member since Feb 2008
1469 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:02 pm to
So has this board come to a conclusion yet if this is true, or is it quotes being taking out of context...last time i checked there was a debate.
Posted by ipodking
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Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by Aktig
Alaska/Louisiana
Member since Feb 2008
2190 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:05 pm to
60% say yes. 20% are alluding to the fact, but being diplomatic and 20% just have their heads in the sand.

Publicly it's mistakes ON the field. Privatly I think it is too. Don't see any changes. Somehow I get my hopes up every weekend. We will see.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
27403 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:07 pm to
what if its the players and the coaches fault?
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16734 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:07 pm to
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What exactly is their scheme?
That's a good question and I don't think the players know.
Posted by ps101
Shreveport
Member since Aug 2005
2194 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:08 pm to
When the coach throws players under the bus and the players start to talk about the "scheme" not working, you might as well stick a fork in the team because its done.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16734 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

So has this board come to a conclusion yet if this is true, or is it quotes being taking out of context...last time i checked there was a deba


Read the article entitled "Miles still dwelling on inerception" and decide for yourself.
Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
2904 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:11 pm to
quote:


What exactly is their scheme?


I am not exactly sure what it is, but whatever it is, all the other coaches seem to know it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Tulane have some offensive success against us, but obviously not win.

Our defense will way out-talent them, but we'll see cracks in the defense mind you, just not a breaking that teams with a semblance of decent talent can do (a la MSU and USCe).
Posted by NolaCajun
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2008
304 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 9:12 pm to
How, cause the D players are not that good.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
82951 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 10:00 pm to
I'm sure it's a combination coaching and players. Isnt it usually?
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 10:06 pm to
I am hoping to see big changes this weekend, but doubt that will happen.
Posted by JawjaTigah
On the Bandwagon
Member since Sep 2003
22878 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 10:21 pm to
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How in the world is that ANYTHING BUT HORRIBLE COACHING?????!!!!!!!!!!!
True. But when players are not in position, and Coach Miles says they are trying things outside the scheme, the question of team discipline begins to rise. Now, that being said, would it be fair to say the undisciplined player deviating from the "scheme" in terms of being out of position is at fault, or the coaching, in a given play?
Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

It seems that Miles is defending his coaches and absolutely throwing the players under bus. I'm sorry, but that's wrong. He needs to take the blame and allow his coaches to take the blame. The kids are trying, and are talented but don't seem to know what they are doing. How in the world is that ANYTHING BUT HORRIBLE COACHING?????!!!!!!!!!!!


A major key to being an elite program is recruiting. Our coaches do the recruiting by calling up the recruits and building relationships with them. If Coach Miles came out and threw his coaches under the bus, how would that help the relationships that our coaches have with the recruiting class we are trying to sign?

On the other hand, if Miles decides to throw the players under the bus, what does that do? That also helps out recruiting (because the recruits think we need them more and they will become starters faster).

It's win-win. The only problem would be is if our current players felt insulted by "being thrown under the bus." But I doubt that's the case. Miles says Lee threw too many interceptions. No freaking s**t???? You think Lee disagrees with that? Miles says our guys on D did a poor job in tackling and in coverage. No freaking s**t??? You think our guy on D disagree with that?

Quit being such a baby. These are football players we are talking about. They expect their coaches to yell at them when they lose.
This post was edited on 10/28/08 at 10:58 pm
Posted by houstontiger
hobby airport
Member since Jan 2005
962 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 10:59 pm to
i just hope miles has a sense of urgency with regard to the defense and not turn into this guy:



Posted by Ramatiger
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2008
196 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 11:07 pm to
On offense it's the players.
On deffense it's the coaches.
Miles knows this. He's not gonna call out coordinators and risk the players loseing respect for them. This also hurts recruiting majorly. It would make absolutly no sense to call out coaches at this point. Miles is doin what is best.
Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

When the coach throws players under the bus and the players start to talk about the "scheme" not working, you might as well stick a fork in the team because its done.
Yeah, cuz when Saban was talking about how the players just weren't executing and the players were talking about not getting his scheme with all the complicated blitzes, that situation never did work itself out.

I'm talking about the 2001 season, when our defense sucked for half the year and then started turning it around after the Ole Miss game. Now, we may or may not see that kind of turnaround this year, but everyone insisting that it can't or even hasn't happened right here at LSU before is simply wrong.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
28994 posts
Posted on 10/28/08 at 11:25 pm to
So it's wrong for Miles to criticize poor plays by athletes? Lee threw a pick that paced the game, yeah...I'd be pissed too.

Defending the coaches? Pretty sure as bad as the D was, they gave up 38 points, exactly how many we scored on Georgia's defense. And unless you want some Clemson or Miami clean house coaching drama going on, you don't want Miles calling out coaches midseason.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33373 posts
Posted on 10/29/08 at 12:46 am to
Has Les ever fired a coach?
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