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Mikel Severe breaks down what happened with Frost and Nebraska: goes beyond loses
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:17 am
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:17 am
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He wanted the job and money but didn’t have the commitment. He was late everyday for practice and didn’t make recruiting calls to recruits. Assistant coaches would go to the athletic director and tell Trev Alberts all the things that he should be doing but is not.
He wanted the job and money but didn’t have the commitment. He was late everyday for practice and didn’t make recruiting calls to recruits. Assistant coaches would go to the athletic director and tell Trev Alberts all the things that he should be doing but is not.
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:23 am to Byrdybyrd05
True or not, it’s funny if Nebraska is trying to float this stuff out there to make themselves look better and place all of their problems onto Frost, when in reality it makes them look much much worse for not pulling the plug sooner 
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:35 am to Byrdybyrd05
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He wanted the job and money but didn’t have the commitment. He was late everyday for practice and didn’t make recruiting calls to recruits. Assistant coaches would go to the athletic director and tell Trev Alberts all the things that he should be doing but is not.
Frost was in his 5th season. If his work ethic was that poor he was well known. In that case, Nebraska deserved everything it brought on itself.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:41 am to wildtigercat93
I'm more than a little skeptical.
This is like hearing one side of the story after a breakup, it might be part of the truth but I bet there is a whole lot more to it.
This is like hearing one side of the story after a breakup, it might be part of the truth but I bet there is a whole lot more to it.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:44 am to Byrdybyrd05
Wouldn't surprise me if he started phoning it in this past off season. Everyone knew he was going to be canned, even Frost himself. Impossible to turn that roster around in one season.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 9:59 am to Ssubba
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Impossible to turn that roster around in one season.
He had 5
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:03 am to the LSUSaint
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:05 am to Ssubba
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Impossible to turn that roster around in one season.
He had the roster to turn it around. Talent wasn't the issue, particularly in the Big Ten West. That's why pundits thought they could win the division.
There sure seemed to be culture and discipline issues however. When Marques Buford said after the Northwestern game that "we played the worst game we're going to play all year, and we only lost by 3", you knew their season was done. That's an awful attitude for a team coming off a 3-9 season who almost always played their "worst game" under Frost.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:31 am to wildtigercat93
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True or not, it’s funny if Nebraska is trying to float this stuff out there to make themselves look better and place all of their problems onto Frost, when in reality it makes them look much much worse for not pulling the plug sooner
Posted on 9/15/22 at 10:36 am to Byrdybyrd05
This reeks of bs.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:03 am to Porter Osborne Jr
I can believe Frost doing it.
I can also believe that Nebraska’s boosters and administration got themselves into this mess by deciding that Solich and Pelini weren’t good enough and should be fired.
The school feels they should be relevant because they were for so long yet anyone who actually produces gets fired for not being successful enough. Then they hire a jackass like Callahan or Riley whose philosophy is completely incompatible with the culture at the school or their available talent.
IIRC, Callahan tried to make Nebraska a passing school when they were known for options while Riley leaned hard on JUCO transfers instead of getting home grown linemen and other talents who worked their way into the program while grabbing skill players from wherever he could.
I can also believe that Nebraska’s boosters and administration got themselves into this mess by deciding that Solich and Pelini weren’t good enough and should be fired.
The school feels they should be relevant because they were for so long yet anyone who actually produces gets fired for not being successful enough. Then they hire a jackass like Callahan or Riley whose philosophy is completely incompatible with the culture at the school or their available talent.
IIRC, Callahan tried to make Nebraska a passing school when they were known for options while Riley leaned hard on JUCO transfers instead of getting home grown linemen and other talents who worked their way into the program while grabbing skill players from wherever he could.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:08 am to Byrdybyrd05
What if he heard rumblings off season he’d be gone soon if they have a slow start? Then he realizes his team isn’t that good so he stops giving effort on purpose to get fired quicker to get the extra payout. Per his contract they would have saved $7.5m had they waited til 1 Oct.
The school is partially at fault here for not seeing it. Either give him til 1 Oct or fire him off season. If he played dumb to get an extra $7.5m thats pretty smart actually
The school is partially at fault here for not seeing it. Either give him til 1 Oct or fire him off season. If he played dumb to get an extra $7.5m thats pretty smart actually
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:23 am to OU Guy
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he realizes his team isn’t that good so he stops giving effort on purpose to get fired quicker to get the extra payout. Per his contract they would have saved $7.5m had they waited til 1 Oct.
like doing an on-side kick up 11 with 20 minutes to go in the game.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:33 am to Byrdybyrd05
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He wanted the job and money but didn’t have the commitment. He was late everyday for practice and didn’t make recruiting calls to recruits. Assistant coaches would go to the athletic director and tell Trev Alberts all the things that he should be doing but is not.
If true, this would have been leaked years ago
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:57 am to Byrdybyrd05
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Mikel Severe
Show me that smile again
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:57 am to teke184
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I can also believe that Nebraska’s boosters and administration got themselves into this mess by deciding that Solich and Pelini weren’t good enough and should be fired.
I see a lot of people saying this. I’m as big a Nebraska football fan as there is, and i approved both firings. Solich couldn’t recruit and was headed downhill fast; Pelini had reached his obvious ceiling and had begun to plateau. The problem wasn’t the firings, it was the replacement hires. Rather than taking the next step forward, both Callahan and Riley took steps backward. Frost took yet another step back. That’s why this next hire is so critical because everyone knows that once you take 3 steps back in a row, you don’t come back.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:59 am to Elleshoe
Nebraska is just going through Growing Pains.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:17 pm to wildtigercat93
I call BS
People came out of the woodworks to crucify Coach O when he was fired and none of it was accurate
People came out of the woodworks to crucify Coach O when he was fired and none of it was accurate
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:29 pm to Herbie Hoya
Plateauing isn’t great but neither is bringing in a coach who is a bad fit.
Michigan was starting to trend down when Lloyd Carr retired / was forced out / whatever.
Hiring RichRod was the wrong fit on a number of levels and caused a lot of damage to the program. His offense and defense worked in the Big East at a school with low academic standards but not at a Midwest school based on running attacks and lots of big linemen and linebackers rather than speedy DBs.
Hoke was a good cultural fit but had a middling career as coach at Ball St and so forth before getting Michigan then only had one good season.
Harbaugh has them back to where they wanted to be but it was a LONG time coming and took a lot of embarrassing shite kickings from tOSU to get there.
While you have to take a risk every so often to progress, you also have to be realistic about your ceiling and how long it would take to rebuild a program after a bad hire.
Michigan was starting to trend down when Lloyd Carr retired / was forced out / whatever.
Hiring RichRod was the wrong fit on a number of levels and caused a lot of damage to the program. His offense and defense worked in the Big East at a school with low academic standards but not at a Midwest school based on running attacks and lots of big linemen and linebackers rather than speedy DBs.
Hoke was a good cultural fit but had a middling career as coach at Ball St and so forth before getting Michigan then only had one good season.
Harbaugh has them back to where they wanted to be but it was a LONG time coming and took a lot of embarrassing shite kickings from tOSU to get there.
While you have to take a risk every so often to progress, you also have to be realistic about your ceiling and how long it would take to rebuild a program after a bad hire.
Posted on 9/15/22 at 12:31 pm to GoldenBoy
Hiring Frost was a real Boner move.
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