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So the fans are expected to pay for the players?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:47 am
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:47 am
I’m still trying to wrap my head around this NIL stuff. Is there any other sport on planet earth where fans who have no equity stake in the team are expected to pay the athletes? The whole thing is just bizarre. I assume Title IX is the reason that we don’t do the sane thing, which is for the athletic department to pay the players directly.
Edit: When I say “fans” above, I’m referring to the boosters setting up funds to pay players, not your average fan.
Edit: When I say “fans” above, I’m referring to the boosters setting up funds to pay players, not your average fan.
This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 10:35 am
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Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:49 am to pelicanpride
Go enjoy Christmas
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:50 am to pelicanpride
Where do you think the money to pay professional athletes comes from?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:52 am to JukeLeft
Already opened presents and the kids are playing with their toys. They got me up at 6:30.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:53 am to Gravitiger
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Where do you think the money to pay professional athletes comes from?
Their salaries come from the owners via ticket sales. That makes sense.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 9:56 am to pelicanpride
Merry Christmas!
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:00 am to LsuTool
Don’t shoot the messenger but be ready for an option where athletes can be basically employees and not be required to go to school but have deferred education to come back and study at a time of their choosing.
Maybe be 5-10 years down the road when the 32 team league is in view.
Maybe be 5-10 years down the road when the 32 team league is in view.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:01 am to the LSUSaint
These are honestly my thoughts on this also. There is no way I would donate my hard earned money to be given to kids who mostly don’t appreciate it.
Imagine being part of the group who originally gave Ricks money to come to LSU. Now he left and went to LSUs biggest rival. Kind of stupid if you ask me.
Imagine being part of the group who originally gave Ricks money to come to LSU. Now he left and went to LSUs biggest rival. Kind of stupid if you ask me.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:04 am to TrouserTrout
It’s just bizarre that the money to “buy” the players is coming from outside the athletic department, which collects the revenue from ticket sales and TV contacts. It’s an insane setup.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:16 am to pelicanpride
And just how are “you” paying for the players?
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:22 am to Sleepy_Tiger
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And just how are “you” paying for the players?
Not sure what you are asking. I’m not doing anything. I buy tickets and watch the games on TV, which generates money for the athletic department. My whole point is that the athletic department should be paying the players just like it works in every other sport. Instead we have a handful of wealthy boosters sending the money, and God bless them for doing it. I want my team to win, so I’m not criticizing. I personally don’t have that sort of money. My point is that the entire setup is unlike any other sport that I can think of.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:24 am to pelicanpride
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Their salaries come from the owners via ticket sales. That makes sense.
Their salaries come from the money from television deals, not ticket sales.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:26 am to Gravitiger
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Where do you think the money to pay professional athletes comes from?
Primarily the TV contracts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:26 am to BigBrod81
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Their salaries come from the money from television deals, not ticket sales.
Thank you. Love when people think they are entitled because they buy a ticket. TV contracts are everything.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:28 am to the LSUSaint
Anyone thinks that these kids are getting equal value from their education vs what the school is making off of them are lost. This is capitalism. Let the market set the rates. Stop watching and giving your money to advertisers if you don’t like and it’ll all sort itself. However, I’ve got news for you if you don’t watch. Your in the minority and this monster hasn’t even begun to grow. College football as we have known it is dead. It’s not coming back.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:28 am to BigBrod81
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Their salaries come from the money from television deals, not ticket sales.
Either way, the owners are collecting that revenue and then the owners pay the players. My entire point is that that appears to be a mismatch in who is collecting the revenue and who is paying one of the larger expenses (player “salaries”).
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:30 am to pelicanpride
The athletic dept is not paying the players. It’s corporations with marketing budgets that allocate that budget for these campaigns.
Most transactions are hundreds of dollars to a couple thousand. The headline deals are only the top 1% of players. This really isn’t as wild as people make it out. Joe schmo fan isn’t paying for this..the athletic dept isn’t paying for this. This is companies with marketing budgets that are doing this, just like sponsoring a sign in the stadium or a tailgate. ..why any fan would care about this is hilarious.
Most transactions are hundreds of dollars to a couple thousand. The headline deals are only the top 1% of players. This really isn’t as wild as people make it out. Joe schmo fan isn’t paying for this..the athletic dept isn’t paying for this. This is companies with marketing budgets that are doing this, just like sponsoring a sign in the stadium or a tailgate. ..why any fan would care about this is hilarious.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:30 am to Gravitiger
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Where do you think the money to pay professional athletes comes from?
Every penny is out of the earnings of folks who go to work every day.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:33 am to NOSA
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Thank you.
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Love when people think they are entitled because they buy a ticket. TV contracts are everything.
They are just ignorant. They don't realize that each pro league's CBA is based around the players getting their percentage of the television revenue. Of course with each new CBA, both the players & owners try to get another amendments that benefit their interests added in the CBA but ultimately each new CBA revolves television money.
In the NFL for example, the salary cap has been growing because it's based on the players getting a certain percentage of the revenue generated from the television contracts.
Posted on 12/25/21 at 10:39 am to pelicanpride
quote:No, it's not insane at all, it's just a loophole like any other.
It’s just bizarre that the money to “buy” the players is coming from outside the athletic department, which collects the revenue from ticket sales and TV contacts. It’s an insane setup.
It is still against the rules for a university to pay recruits and players, just like it always has been. In the old days, it was also against the rules for boosters to pay kids to come. Look at SMU with the death penalty, etc.
But now, with the NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) rule, a player can get a deal "on his own", to market himself.
The concept is simple- you or I, or anyone else, can be in a Go-Auto commercial with Greg the Go Auto guy... but a semi-famous LSU player like Myles Brennan (for example) would be a more recognizable figure than I would, and thus in theory would be a better investment. Businesses pay to get a celebrity endorsement.
The issue with that, is that it opens the door for booster payments. 2 rules are 100% clear-
1) there is no wording in any NIL contract that a player HAS to sign with a program
2) There will be no contract physically available to sign, UNTIL said player signs with a program
As long as you follow #1, you can do #2 as much as you want. The payer can simply say "we're paying guys who HAPPEN to be LSU players", and not a thing can be done. Nobody has to keep doing this, but the problem is, someone elsewhere will. BYU had a "deal" that paid walk-ons the equivalent of full scholarships, etc.
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