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re: Hello, Tiger Fans. Allow me to shed some light.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:41 pm to irnfan
Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:41 pm to irnfan
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Do you happen to know what Aranda's opinion of Canada was?
Don't know how credible it may be but on the Ben Love radio show Ruffin Rodrigue (SP) said that Aranda did not like Canada as well. He stated that Aranda really preferred the coordinator meetings with Ensminger over Canada and that Aranda found him very difficult to work with. FWIW
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Posted on 1/9/18 at 2:46 pm to schexyoung
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Coach O is going to write a tell-it-all pop-up book explaining everything!
I hope it will have audio with it so the o-supporters can enjoy it too.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:01 pm to Manswers
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Going after Kiffin where he knew there was no shot at landing him allows him to think in his own mind that he's not really breaking a promise to hire an elite OC.
That's a shady as frick way of acting, but I can certainly see o doing such a thing.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:04 pm to earl keese
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I hope it will have audio with it so the o-supporters can enjoy it too.
I regret I have only one upvote to give!!!!
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:07 pm to Placebeaux
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Miles just ALWAYS underachieved and disappointed. His first game at TS was an indicator of things to come.
Oh, so you're one of those people. The start of the 2005 season is affected by not just one major storm, but two, and you're in the camp that wanted to burn Miles at the stake for losing a monday night game after having to deal with these storms.
But I'm sure you're perfectly fine with the 4 losses this past season.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:10 pm to TenthTiger
I just got through reading this entire thread, and my jaw dropped a number of times. Thanks for all the info TenthTiger.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:15 pm to Placebeaux
quote:Underachieved what?
Miles just ALWAYS underachieved and disappointed.
Miles worst 5 year stretch has more wins than any other LSU coach best 5 year stretch.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:21 pm to TenthTiger
Thank you 
After reading this entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that your name rhymes with Bat Shanada.
After reading this entire thread, I have come to the conclusion that your name rhymes with Bat Shanada.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:29 pm to TenthTiger
Thanks for all the info TenthTiger. This has been a very interesting thread.
Welcome to the rant and have a great day.
Welcome to the rant and have a great day.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:30 pm to lsufball19
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But, in reality, their backgrounds do matter, for better or for worse. How long ago these things happened matters as well. Briles, for instance, still has pending lawsuits against him as well as expected future lawsuits to be filed.
And while Freeze has no restrictions as an assistant, he does have a show cause as a HC, and that still would be cause for concern for any P5 school thinking about hiring him this year. It's just hard to sell a hire when a guy just got fired and his former school put on probation. if this were a situation like Sark, where he was fired for being a drunk, that's an easier sell, and even Alabama would only take him on as an analyst. He had to pay his time before getting another staff position.
I get all that, and know that's the reason why, i just think it's stupid.
It's not like these past things are going to stop some big program from hiring Briles or Freeze in the future. Someone will bite the bullet eventually, and then he'll do well and no one will care anymore.
I'm sure that one year at Western Kentucky really helped Bobby Petrino to become a better person and the hiring at Louisville easier in the media.
Calipari has vacated wins at UMass and Memphis, and Kentucky didn't give a shite.
Kelvin Sampson got hit with a 5 year show cause at Indiana, was an assistant in the NBA in those 5 years, then when the show cause was up, was hired by Houston to be their head coach.
OSU has no problem with Schiano being a coordinator, and neither did OSU people, but the idiots in Tennessee did for some stupid reason.
George Oleary had the embarrassing lying on his resume fiasco with Notre Dame, goes coach in the NFL for two years, then is back in college at UCF and did great there.
Seems like a year or two after the boo boo, it's all good. Freeze sat out a year, just hire him and tell the media to shove some fresh gulf shrimp head first up their arse while the vast majority of the fan base is happy about the hire.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 3:46 pm to TenthTiger
Help me out Tenth Tiger at least on the F King Alexander role in all of this. He is routinely skewered here, but the people I know who were close to the situation say that Alexander was the guy who had to tell Alleva to stop on Fisher because it just was not happening, forget the optics, that if Fisher was not biting with the offer on the table, that leaving Miles hanging in the wind without another real option was really looking bad
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:25 pm to TeddyPadillac
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It's not like these past things are going to stop some big program from hiring Briles or Freeze in the future. Someone will bite the bullet eventually, and then he'll do well and no one will care anymore.
Oh absolutely, it just may take a year or two before ADs feel enough time has passed where the PR hit won't be as much a cause for concern. I think Hugh will get an offer somewhere, albeit maybe at a smaller school, after next season. Briles will probably have to have all pending and future litigation against him be resolved before any big program will be willing to hire him, and honestly, his name will likely be toxic for much longer than Freeze.
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I'm sure that one year at Western Kentucky really helped Bobby Petrino to become a better person and the hiring at Louisville easier in the media.
Bobby Petrino went back to a school he'd coached at before, and it was three years removed from his firing at Arkansas before he received another P5 offer
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Calipari has vacated wins at UMass and Memphis, and Kentucky didn't give a shite.
Calipari always jumped ship and had a new job before sanctions were ever levied against his former schools. He also was never personally held responsible for anything. He also was in the NBA for 3 years between the time he coached at UMass and Memphis. He left Memphis for Kentucky long before Memphis was put on probation.
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Kelvin Sampson got hit with a 5 year show cause at Indiana, was an assistant in the NBA in those 5 years, then when the show cause was up, was hired by Houston to be their head coach.
A 5 year break can do wonders for people moving past prior transgressions
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OSU has no problem with Schiano being a coordinator, and neither did OSU people, but the idiots in Tennessee did for some stupid reason.
Schiano's transgressions happened in the early 90s and he's never been found to have done anything. But his name was still toxic enough for Tennessee to put to rest hiring him. He also just got demoted at OSU I believe.
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George Oleary had the embarrassing lying on his resume fiasco with Notre Dame, goes coach in the NFL for two years, then is back in college at UCF and did great there.
Again, he had a 2 year break, and as you mentioned, his lying cost him, at the time, the biggest job in college football and he was never hired by a P5 school again.
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Seems like a year or two after the boo boo, it's all good
pretty much. time cures a lot when we're talking about PR concerns. When stuff is so fresh it's nearly impossible to sell a hire of someone like that to an administration and big donors, as well as a good portion of the fanbase
What i don't understand is why two of the main candidates that have been mentioned are guys that no one else will hire right now? Why can't we hitch our wagon to a candidate that doesn't have any of those concerns. There are a lot of OCs out there that don't carry all of that baggage. But, for whatever reason, we decide to make runs at guys that will never happen this year.
This post was edited on 1/9/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:35 pm to slackster
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This HCIW condition isnt guaranteed. It simply means Aranda will be the first person interviewed and evaluated.
He should start preparing his binder now.
You guys are killing me with the jokes today.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:37 pm to FightingTigers1
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Could we really afford woodword? I don't see a bidding war with Texas a&m ending well
I'm probably being naive here - but maybe it's not all about money? Perhaps Woodword's potential for success is higher at LSU than aTm?
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:42 pm to lsufball19
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What i don't understand is why two of the main candidates that have been mentioned are guys that no one else will hire right now?
that way you can say you tried to get some of the best (knowing full well you wont) so can then "settle" for the one you wanted all along......frick that shite
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:45 pm to Bamboozles
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that way you can say you tried to get some of the best (knowing full well you wont) so can then "settle" for the one you wanted all along......frick that shite
I get that angle from Orgeron if the rumors are true. But why do our fans, also, latch onto these candidates full knowing they aren't going to happen. They even know why, they just don't agree with why.
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:49 pm to lsufball19
Cause time heals indescretions like you said.....sooner for most on here including me with respect to coaches
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:53 pm to earl keese
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I hope it will have audio with it so the o-supporters can enjoy it too
Upvote awarded
Posted on 1/9/18 at 4:54 pm to Bamboozles
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Cause time heals indescretions like you said.....sooner for most on here including me with respect to coaches
I guess with Hugh Freeze it's just funny to me because our fans (myself included) loved seeing Hugh Freeze go down in flames and made all sorts of allegations about his moral compass and ethics in recruiting, yet here we are just a few months later begging for him to be our coach and forgiving him of all past transgressions. You have to see the irony in that
Posted on 1/9/18 at 5:00 pm to TeddyPadillac
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Can someone shed some light on why the thought of Briles as OC was shot down so quickly? Was he accused of something? I honestly have no idea.
Sounds like O floated the idea of Art Briles, which was obviously shot down. It doesn't sound like O every tried with the younger Briles. Is that correct?
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