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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]Point taken, but don't you think it's a little strange how many people who are claiming that WTC 7 was intentionally destroyed are not mentioning important details of the event? [/quote] The main problem that I have with a few of your points is that NIST didn't agree (at least indirectly...
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[quote]No it isn't. You spend too much time giving attention to liars, like the OP and his fake analysis video. [/quote] So FEA is a lie unless it agrees with the official government story or the NIST results? It's pretty obvious to anyone with technical understanding that they aren't lying. ...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]So a study commissioned and carried out by a group with a clear agenda reached the conclusion they set out to find? I AM SHOCKED![/quote] I'm pretty sure the University of Alaska at Fairbanks doesn't have an agenda. You think that 300k for a 3 year study (and 3 research engineers) i...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]Richard Gage is nuttier than Chinese fried chicken. Just nutty, outright.[/quote] Are you saying this because he is a "truther" or for some other reason? I've only seen a few short clips of him that have to do with the UAF engineering presentation in the OP....
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]I don't think that pic is of WTC 7. I could be wrong though. [/quote] I think you are right... looks like the Bankers Trust Building. [quote]The fires were actually pretty bad. There are numerous pics and videos that show the building burning badly. those fires lasted for hours and ...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]Why wouldn't you use a solid material analysis and adjust the properties for thermally altered members? [/quote] This is exactly what was done to compare to the NIST model results. The second part is modeling what actually happened to the entire building, not just to the NIST study. ...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]Of course not. Why should you be expected to support the claims you make with anything specific? [/quote] Your response doesn't actually address what I said....
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]You had time to create this ridiculous thread. [/quote] That doesn't mean I'm going to drag everyone through the technical details if they aren't willing to at least read what was linked....
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]So you have no interest in facts. You honestly claim that you didn't read any of the NIST report..but just know it's wrong. That, imo, is the mind set of a true believer. Facts don't matter. [/quote] I never "honestly" claimed anything. Based on your continual injection/projection of ...
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[quote]I do have my doubts about how they arrived at the steel seated connection losing it's bearing, and causing progressive collapse. To me theres way too many variables here to pinpoint that one method of failure. [/quote] This is one of the main issues NIST model. Column 79 (the column in ...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]You're deflecting. Did you read the NIST report? What errors did you find? Be as specific as possible. [/quote] I don't have as much time to waste as you and I'm not dragging you along (not that I could if I wanted). The info is in the OP :cool:...
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[quote]Doesn't seem like you understand what cognitive dissonance is. Supposedly the World Trade Center building 7 came down due to fires on several floors and damage sustained by the explosions. It is completely relevant and shows definitely that the official story is wrong [/quote] 1. I said h...
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[quote]You're confused. What does the "MSM" have to do with anything? Did you find fault with the NIST report..if so, can you point out their mistakes..provide an alternative hypothesis, and support your hypothesis with evidence? If not, you're simply spewing garbage. [/quote] Know how I know yo...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]How so? Were they "in on it" too, in your opinion? [/quote] No idea. Could just be incompetent. Watch the video or look at the slides. If you don't understand then this is too technical for you to discuss. eta: grammmmars...
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[quote]No. Thats not what I'm saying. Where did you get the idea that I was basing my views on "motive"? It seems you're trying to deflect. Can you answer my 2 questions? Here's a third. Have you seen the movie by Dylan Avery called "Loose Change"?[/quote] I'm not deflecting anything, I was jus...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
Are you saying that this study is invalid unless there is a motive determined first?...
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[quote]You're brainwashed. Facts don't matter...[/quote] For the serious? Literally engineering and science. If you were attacking the methods and assumptions then you wouldn't be so hypocritical. I look forward to the day later in the year or early next year after this study is peer-revie...
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re: Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - Prelim Study Released - ProbyOne
[quote]I mean, I literally watched planes ram into those buildings on live TV. I saw humans leaping to their deaths from a 110 story building. [/quote] Welcome to the club? Plenty of us saw the same thing....
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I take this to mean you didn't read the premise of the study and preliminary findings?...
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