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Liverpool, England

Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:21 pm
Posted by dutchtiger
Member since Jun 2012
511 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 7:21 pm
Is Liverpool worth visiting when traveling to England? I hope to visit London, Manchester, etc. one day, but not sure about Liverpool.
Posted by mizslu314
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Member since Sep 2013
15942 posts
Posted on 8/15/17 at 8:21 pm to
NOPE. Ive done two England trips, both included London, Manchester, Liverpool, and newcastle. I totally regretted Liverpool the first time, and half way mistakenly booked it the second time and it was even worse. Will never go back.

instead, I recommend The midlands, newcastle, York, or Brighton over liverpool.

This is, unless your a big beatles fan or you like liverpool FC or something like
This post was edited on 8/15/17 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79032 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 9:49 am to
I think Liverpool is worth visiting, but I'm an Everton fan. I think it's more interesting than Manchester.

Northern England is very different and Liverpool is culturally distinct from a lot of other parts of the UK. Heavy irish and naval influence, traditionally very working class and there has been a lot of political resentment between north and south for decades. People will still curse Margaret Thatcher if you bring her up, and Liverpool suffered a great deal of damage in WW2 (and there is still evidence of it if you go looking for it).

The truth is that neither Liverpool nor Manchester are places I want to live or spend a week in. They're both trying to recover from decades of pretty depressed economies (which is occurring, and that is very visible). It's quite possible that after a few days of walking around either city, the bleakness of some of it will depress you (it did us). But it's also something I haven't experienced elsewhere in the UK, and I'm glad I got to do so. It will absolutely feel more "authentic" as to what life is and was like during more troubled times for England. And while there are definitely shitty (if still very interesting) parts, it's not a dump, there is a ton of revitalization going on on merseyside.

I recently dragged my fiancee to Liverpool and she was a) not a huge beatles fan and b) not a soccer fan at all - hates it actually. She'd probably tell you that Liverpool was one of the top couple highlights of our last UK trip. The beatles stuff was like flipping a switch, now it's constantly playing in our house and she would probably rank the Beatles tour we did as the #1 overall think on our 10 day or so trip. She didn't mind the soccer and was fascinated by how the neighborhoods around the grounds were (depressing, but intriguing because it looks like how you'd think Belfast would look in 1970).

Anyway, Liverpool is not where I'd go to have a luxury stay in England, although there are certainly high end hotels, bars and restaurants. But if you like the Beatles, history, soccer, pubs or just want to see a grittier and unique side of the UK, it's definitely worth a couple nights.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20368 posts
Posted on 8/16/17 at 11:07 am to
A vast majority of the UK's economy is in London, so any and all towns outside of that can be pretty disappointing IMO as far as being modern. I much prefer the country and small towns, the small castles, and the rural lifestyle. Its not like the states where the people are completely different and live a different life, its very similar but more more relaxed.

If you haven't been to Wales or Scotland, Edinburgh is only a 4 hour train ride from London. I'd honestly do that first over any other big city like Manchester or Liverpool. I have never found a huge difference in culture, food, etc. in England outside of London. That's not to say you won't enjoy it and find a lot of fun.
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