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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:36 pm
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:36 pm
The trip started out slow with a five hour flight delay in Houston so we missed our connection in in San Francisco to Seoul. Not a bad place for a layover.


First stop was Seoul. Bukchon Hanok village was beautiful. This is the oldest neighborhood in the city where you will find houses where nobility used to live during the Joseon dynasty in the 1600s - 1800s.


Changdeokgung Palace. One of the seven palaces of the Joseon dynasty.



All of the food in Seoul is incredible. One of the best food cities.




From Seoul, we took a flight to Guilin, China; stayed there for one night then our driver met us and took us to Yangshuo. Yangshuo and the Karst mountains were definitely the highlight.









picture of the actual Li river and the Li river on the 20 Yuan bill


The famous cormorant fisherman as seen in natgeo


view from our hotel


Next stop on the trip was the Yunnan province in the southwest corner of China. Lots of old towns and moutains

Dali Old town


















Pagodas from the Tang Dynasty. 1200 years old.


From Dali, our driver took us to Tiger Leaping gorge where we trekked for two days. They call it tiger leaping gorge because apparently a tiger jumped across the gorge at its narrowest point (33 yards).






From tiger leaping gorge, we were driven to Shangri La in Tibet. Really cool little mountain town.

The monastery built by the fifth Dalai Lama in the 1600s



First time seeing a yak. Their meat and milk were also yummy.


Their local brew, Shangri La beer, is the best I've had in Asia. Most Asian countries produce a lager or pilsner that isn't that great.


Tibetan line dancing, a daily ritual.


From Shangri La, we drove four hours south to the beautiful old town of Lijiang
On the way, our driver got a flat. Very dangerous being on the side of the road. Chinese drivers have little regard for human safety


Lijiang old town










I was lucky enough to see the jade dragon snow mountain on a clear day. It's usually covered in clouds.


From Lijiang we flew to Xian. In Xian, the biggest attraction is the terracotta warriors, but the old city is really cool. The ming dynasty built a lot of incredible things like the city walls, the drum tower, and the bell tower. The muslim quarter has great street food. At least a mile of nothing but street food vendors.





Mutton in a special sauce on an arepa-like bread


Mutton soup dumplings. Best dumplings I've ever eaten.



The Xian bell tower


The terracotta warriors. They were created by the first Chinese emperor Qin Shu Huang to accompany him into the afterlife. They still have not excavated his tomb which is still under a giant man made mound 2 km away. Supposedly there is a giant repilica map of the Chinese empire above the tomb with rivers of mercury. There also is supposedly crossbow booby traps still in place from 350 BC.




From Xian, we took a night Train to Beijing where we would fly back out to San Francisco. Beijing was excellent for history, but the smog was so bad you had zero chance of seeing the blue sky or sun. In fact, the air pollution is so bad that it floats over to South Korea and blocks their sunlight.

Tiananman square


The emperor's throne inside the forbidden city. The forbidden city was massive and impressive but most of the buildings looked the same. The Boxers and eventually the Japanese then communists looted most of it.


In Beijing, you have to try the Peking duck. I went to DaDong which is the best Peking duck in China. Most delicious bird I've ever eaten.


and finally the great wall. It did not disappoint.
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 3:39 pm to
Man do you go to some cool arse places, C!

:jealous:
Posted by fitzgerald16
Gwangju City South Korea
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 7:11 pm to
I've never been to china, but I live in South Korea. Seoul has many palaces to check out. Itaewon is the foreign hangout in Seoul The war museum at Samgaki (line 4,6) subway station in Seoul has tanks, etc. used in the Korean War. I went there in 2003 and got my pic on a Russian tank.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
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Posted on 2/27/17 at 9:42 pm to
You have the opportunity to post the best thread ever on here. Please come back with lots and lots of pics.

Posted by CuseTiger
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 9:25 am to
Can't help with yangshuo or yunnan, but if you take a look at the stickied thread up top there should be a link to my thread on Beijing and I think Seoul (only stopped there for 17 hours).

Beijing is huge, subway was really easy to get around, "shi shi" is probably the phrase I used the most. Also download the google translate app because it will just convert what you want into chinese pretty accurately, I had to use that several times when ordering food at a restaurant. Summer Palace, Forbidden City, Tienanmen Square, great wall should all be on your must dos. Try some Peking Duck, basically little duck tacos that you make with sprouts duck and sauce
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:23 am to
Went to Yangshuo a few years ago when I was studying over there and loved it. It is a backpacker town with plenty of bars and hostels to accommodate the people that go there for hiking/rock climbing. So, expect lots of young people.

My recommendation is if you are going through Guilin, take the Li River cruise down to Yangshuo. It takes a couple of hours, but if you get a clear day, the scenery is well worth it. You can take one of the larger boats, but I recommend the smaller dinghies (essentially PVC pipes twined together with school chairs strapped to the deck). They are cheaper and much more fun.

While in Yangshuo, "West Street" is the major tourist attraction with plenty of shops and restaurants. Find a rooftop bar at night because they put giant spotlights on the mountains surrounding the town. While you're there, you must try "shou zhua bing" (???). It's a fried pancake with egg, lettuce, mutton, sausage, and pretty much anything else you want on it. Best drunk food in the world IMHO.

During the day, instead of going on one of the bus tours, we rented motorbikes and hired a local guide to take us around to the major attractions. Zipping through the Chinese countryside was an absolute blast and the bikes/guide were only a couple hundred RMB.

I'm at work, but I'll try to post pics soon.

TLDR; Li River Cruise from Guilin to Yangshuo, motorbike tour of the countryside, drink heavily on West Street at night.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 2/28/17 at 10:08 pm to
I'll definitely bump with pictures!!

Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 8:32 am to
How long is the cruise down the li river to yangshuo?

I can't do motorcycles anymore because ive been in a few accidents (got 12 stitches in bali and tore my rotator cuff in honduras) so my wife isnt keen on it. But hopfully theyll have four wheel drive or something like that to see the country.

Any tours that you recommend?
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 10:57 am to
If I recall correctly, the cruise takes about two hours and stops several times along the way. They stop by the place depicted on the 20 RMB note and a few tourist kiosks along the river.

From the end of the cruise, you take a brief bus ride into Yangshuo proper.

Li River Cruise





Yangshuo countryside





City of Yangshuo



West Street at night



Shuo Zhua Bing on West Street (bacon, sausage, egg, lettuce, siracha, and mayo in a fried pancake)



As for tours, go see all of the natural attractions like Moon Hill and the Big Banyan Tree. I've heard good things about Sanjie Liu though as well. It's a light show with boats along the river that looks cool, but I didn't get a chance to see it.

Good site about Sanjie Liu and other Yangshuo tips
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 2:33 pm to
Thank you so much for the advice! I was on the femce about the Li river cruise but since its only two hours, ill do it

How much planning do i need in advance. We get into gulin airport at 11:00 so i was thinking of staying there for the night do the li river cruise in the morning. How was the language barrier? Also is it difficult to get a taxi from yangshuo to guilin airport. I will be flying to kunming from there? Did you use ctrip to book your flights?

TIA
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 3:46 pm to
The cruise is only two hours, but there is a bus portion. You take the bus about an hour to the docks and then another 30 minutes or so into Yangshuo after the cruise, just FYI. You don't need to plan too far in advance and sometimes it is better that you don't. China requires a fair bit of flexibility because nothing is black and white.

I did something similar. Arrived late and stayed the night at Wada Hostel (nice accommodations despite the "hostel" tag and near buses to river) and woke up early the next morning to head to Yangshuo. The staff there was extremely helpful and walked us to the correct bus to take us to the docks.

I speak a little Mandarin, so I was able to avoid any major snags, but the language barrier can be an issue at times. Most of the guides around the tourist areas will speak some English, and there will be plenty of tourists around. You can always follow behind another group if you don't join one outright.

Once in Yangshuo, there are plenty of English-speaking hostels you can dart into that will help you out or even help plan trips for you. The one I stayed at was called Bad Panda (I was a student on a budget and don't recommend staying here ) and the staff there was really helpful in planning our excursions.

Ctrip for everything! Far and away the best resource for transportation within China. With accommodations though, I've found it is better to shop around other sites.

Hope this helps!
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 3/9/17 at 2:56 pm to
Thanks,

That definitely helps for Yangshuo. I'm budgeting about 2 days there with the Li River cruise. Are there any tours you suggest? What about the rice terraces and mountain biking.


I will also be going to Kunming, Dali, Lijiang, Shangri-La, Xian, Beijing. Any other recs are appreciated.
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
Member since Jan 2008
257 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 6:57 am to
Though I didn't personally take part, I know you can do full-day, private, guided cycling excursions around the Yangshuo countryside for cheap. Honestly, that'd probably be the best way to see the sights without taking one of the overrated and expensive bus tours.

The Longji Rice Terraces are just to the north of Guilin and I've heard they are stunning. You'd probably have to stay an extra day in Guilin to make it work though.

Here is an example of some of the tours you can do:
Yanghsuo Private Tours

I highly recommend getting a private guide if you join a tour. It might cost a bit more, but ultimately you are in control of your schedule if you want to skip a location or spend more time at another place. You also don't have to spend as much time at the mandatory government shop stops too

It looks like you'll be spending a fair bit of time in Yunnan province and I'm not as familiar with that area unfortunately.

How long are you staying in Xi'an? That's where I lived in China and can give you some recommendations based on the amount of time you are spending there.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:20 pm to
Im thinking ill do one day at Longji rice terraces; and one day yangshuo
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
Member since Jan 2008
257 posts
Posted on 3/11/17 at 9:17 am to
That's a solid way to break it down. You shouldn't need more than a day in Yangshuo to see everything you want to see.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 3:25 pm to
Cool. So you think I should do one day in the rice terraces, then only one day in Yangshuo? I was just worried I wouldn't have enough time in Yangshuo

I'm also arranging someone to take us to the cormorant fisherman that evening.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
22443 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:15 pm to
bump
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:36 pm to
I am jealous as frick
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 3:37 pm to
Thank you for the fantastic reviews and images. Great stuff.
Posted by gulfcoasttiger5
The Bay
Member since Jan 2008
257 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 7:24 pm to
Looks like you had an awesome time and made me miss China! Hope my suggestions helped a bit!
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